1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Hello, good afternoon. How are you? Welcome to another program of Radio Burbuja. We are 2 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:30,800 here with a very special guest from the Erasmus program. We have Elina. Hello, Elina. How 3 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,880 are you? Hello, nice to see you all and nice to come here and participate in this project. 4 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Thank you. Elina is from Finland. She has come also with another two teachers, two more 5 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:47,400 teachers. Johanna, hello, how are you? Hello, Christina. It's great to be here. Iris, hello. 6 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:53,520 How are you? Hello, Christina. So glad to be here. They come from Ilma Joki, from another 7 00:00:53,520 --> 00:01:00,040 adult education school. But we also have two more visitors from another country, from Italy. 8 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:07,840 We have Paola. Hi, Paola. How are you doing? Hi. Thank you for hosting us. And Marisa. 9 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:20,720 They come also from GPA3 from Torino. Hello. Okay. I'm going to tell you how we met. Well, 10 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:27,320 for the listeners, we met in a TCA. It's an international cooperation activity in Warsaw. 11 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:36,720 So we could have the opportunity to meet Johanna and Iris and also Paola in that TCA. And then 12 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,800 when we were working together during those three days, I remember last year in September, 13 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:47,120 we decided to work in the projects, in the Erasmus project together. And that's why now 14 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:56,080 they are here. Welcome. Well, the first question I would like to ask you is, is this the first 15 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:05,000 school, adult school you see outside your countries or not? For us, it is. It's the 16 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:15,160 first one. For Paola and Marisa? For us too, because it is the first time that we are arranging 17 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:27,280 an Erasmus project. And this is possible due to our met in Warsaw. And have you seen many 18 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:33,040 differences or a lot of differences between our school and yours in your countries? 19 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Maybe the location is the biggest difference. Because our school is in the middle of the 20 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:49,960 countryside, in the middle of fields and forests. And this school is in the city. And a part of 21 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:57,160 that, what we see more is similarities. Maybe that's the biggest difference. 22 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Well, it's a big difference. And I also would like to add that in our school, we have just 23 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:12,600 studies from eight till four maximum. But here, it was a surprise for us to know that lessons can 24 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,960 last till nine in the evening. So depending or giving more opportunities for students who have 25 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:25,160 job to also participate in study, it's great. But at the same time, it's funny to see how 26 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:31,160 students are similar, no matter where you are now. That's interesting. 27 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:43,240 What about yours? Our school, we found many similar things from timetable and also for 28 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:54,360 offer and students. Yes, many, many similar things and something different. I think many 29 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:06,920 things linked to local culture and also local politics and government. Sometimes it's very 30 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,560 different from our support that we have in our school in general in Italy. 31 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:20,200 What timetable do you do in Italy? The same of yours. From nine to nine. Yes, yes. Because in 32 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:30,200 the night, we have many workers that need to improve some language, Italian language to work 33 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:39,880 and to improve their education. Then we need to work until nine. Some school has hour in Turin, 34 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:48,840 in the city centre because our school is out of the city centre. Work until 10 o'clock in the night 35 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:54,520 because the people need to work during the night to study during the night because during the day 36 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:00,520 they work. What about the age? Because as you can see, most of our students are around their 20s. 37 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,600 But as you have seen, for example, in my lesson, some of them are 38 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:12,840 retired or are 16. What about the age in your schools? Are they young, younger? 39 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:20,280 We have people from all the age groups. I think the youngest at the moment is around 15 years. 40 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,960 The oldest just turned out 88 years. Wow. 41 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:37,320 A Ukrainian lady. Yes, I met her. But 15 you said? Yes, 15 is the youngest. So adult education 42 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:48,680 starts in Finland when you are 15 years old? Well, our school is not a normal school. Right. 43 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:57,720 We offer many kinds of education. So, for example, with the immigrant education, 44 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:03,400 we might have a bit younger students than normally in Finland. 45 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:11,240 I can also add something just to clarify. The fact is that when a foreign family comes to 46 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:18,600 study, mostly parents are the ones who apply for school. And as long as the family has 47 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:26,280 children of different ages, like from the sixth degree, 48 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:35,160 unfortunately there is no preparatory course for this age. So there is a preparatory course 49 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:41,400 where they study first Finnish language, and then little by little they are integrated into 50 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:51,720 normal lessons or normal class, whereby the teaching is in Finnish. So it takes time. 51 00:06:51,720 --> 00:07:00,360 That's why after the sixth grade, so from 13 and higher, the child needs to first get some 52 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:07,720 basis about Finnish language. And that's why, like the other schools cannot provide that, 53 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:14,120 that's why at least for one year the child, like 15, 16 years old child, has to stay, for example, 54 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,000 in the same classroom with the parents, which is also very convenient and nice to them. They 55 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:26,120 get to know the culture and the system, how it works. Yeah. That's a big difference with our 56 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:33,080 system, because we should have more lessons for immigrants who do not know the language. 57 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:41,320 We have three groups, two groups, only two. And what about in Italy? Do you have the same 58 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:52,360 range of age? Yes, the younger, he is 15 years old. Only if they are attending a secondary school 59 00:07:52,360 --> 00:08:01,560 during the day, and during the evening they come in our school too. And we support them in Italian 60 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,840 language for studying. We support them during their study in a secondary school for young. 61 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:17,400 And then, because from 16, all students can come in our school until we have not the end, 62 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:25,720 yes, we have no limit. And we have courses for people that are just arrived in Italy and has a 63 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:38,120 low educational profile. And another part is for people that already or has just studied two years 64 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:47,880 in Italy or in our school and follow the study until receive the certificate of the end of the 65 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:54,440 course. Or someone that come with an higher level of education, then they need only to 66 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:04,040 improve Italian language to start working or continue studying in Italy. This is the offer. 67 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Then we have other courses in addition like technology, informatics or Italian for 68 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:23,720 special issues, for example. And sometimes we have also courses generally for Spanish 69 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:30,680 courses or English for all people that want to learn. So similar to us that we have the 70 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:41,080 English lessons or technology. But only, well, we don't have for the years before we have French 71 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,600 or theater, but we don't have that any longer. What do you teach there apart from secondary 72 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:52,600 school? Do you have, as they said, as Paula said, other languages? 73 00:09:53,320 --> 00:10:00,520 So our department of the school, we teach like elementary school for adults, basic education 74 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:10,040 for adults, and also this integration studies like language and culture for adults. And those groups 75 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:17,880 are mixed. They are in the same classrooms and they learn the same things. And for one or two 76 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:27,720 or maybe three years in our school. What are the things that you have liked more about our school? 77 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:41,400 Many, many things, many ideas. A lot of projects with the students in the class, 78 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:51,880 and because in our school we teach in the class, but don't have a project involved 79 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:59,880 all the school. Yes, generally we project something in our class during our lesson. 80 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:09,000 I, for example, I work with ludic activities so much, but in my class also because I have 81 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:16,440 a particular student, that is to say, but generally we are spontaneous activities that 82 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:27,160 we have to improve this and to share with all teachers and to fix something in 83 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:35,320 for always in our school like you do. We have something that you share and all classes join 84 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:44,360 with their own possibility. And this is very important because you create something for anyone. 85 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:52,280 And I think that it's very interesting things that we have to learn, for example. 86 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:59,560 As much as you say, as much as you can enrich yourself. 87 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:06,040 And, you know, for some of you, this is the first time you are in Spain. 88 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,880 So what are your impressions so far? Of course, you have been here just for very few days for 89 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,840 the moment. But what are your impressions about the Spain or Spanish people? Well, 90 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:28,360 well, I think Spanish people are really easy going and friendly and Alcala is a really nice 91 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:37,000 and green town. Yeah, we have a big number of trees. And yes, I read something about 92 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:43,800 it doesn't look so green, but it's true that it's green. And it's autumn time in Finland at the 93 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:51,720 moment. So maybe compared to that, this looks a lot greener. And also, I have to mention that 94 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:58,600 your history is really interesting. And I love those old buildings in the center. 95 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,360 I also was about to say and mention the architecture of the buildings. They are looking 96 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,400 very nice and they are looking very solid. Meanwhile, they may be very, very old. We are 97 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:18,840 really admiring how strong and like they are and the way they look and the architecture is really 98 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:25,240 very beautiful. Especially the streets are also very beautiful. And it is really nice to walk 99 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,920 along and admire because the these bricks, the red bricks, the houses are made from, 100 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:37,000 it is very impressive and really nice. Of course, it's more similar to Italy. But 101 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:42,760 do you have any new impression so far? I know for me, Spain is home because 102 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:51,720 two or three times per year I come in Spain, mainly in Salamanca to study because I was a 103 00:13:51,720 --> 00:14:00,280 teacher of Spanish for children. Then I studied so much culture and language. And for me, it's 104 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:07,640 always a discovery. Yes, because it's always new, something new to learn. And it's the first time 105 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,600 in Alcalá, the birthplace of Cervantes. I'm so excited about this. 106 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,480 I feel Spanish, a sister of Italy. 107 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Yes, I agree. Very similar, yeah. But I don't see so much difference. 108 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Thank you very much. We hope to see you back again soon, sometime in the future. 109 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:46,840 You know, you are welcome. Thank you so much. And we hope to see you in Finland in our school. 110 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,280 We are waiting for you. It's fixed yet, no? Soon. 111 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:58,920 Yes. And thank you for being prepared for this, for our visit, because we can see 112 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:05,800 the whole team. So, like, great impact and time you spent on preparing. The program is really 113 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:12,840 very interesting and really rich and different. And we are very, like, it is exciting to participate, 114 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:20,600 like, in everyday life of this school. And one more thing. Yeah, we are really very, 115 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:26,760 we appreciate the hospitality of this school. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I have 116 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:34,520 to say that we haven't been to Turin yet, but Jose and I went to Finland already, and the hospitality 117 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,400 was very nice, and we had a very good time there. So thank you very much, too. So we can say the 118 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,120 same words for you. Thank you.