1 00:00:02,350 --> 00:00:32,329 Thank you. 2 00:00:32,350 --> 00:00:42,670 no place, space within the city where its accelerated rhythm makes people 3 00:00:42,670 --> 00:00:49,710 be and at the same time not be. In the great metropolises people experience small 4 00:00:49,710 --> 00:00:57,590 enclaves, in their work itineraries, consumption or entertainment. The experience of the urban, 5 00:00:57,590 --> 00:01:00,590 solidarity and sense of belonging. 6 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:13,590 Marc Augé is a French anthropologist who studies the relations between individuals 7 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:20,590 and between groups of individuals in spaces where this relationship is given with difficulty 8 00:01:20,590 --> 00:01:23,590 or basically it is not given. 9 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:41,590 There can be examples of that, the airports, a hotel room, a road, all the places where the individual consumes the space with another purpose in reality, and that basically he wants to escape from there as soon as possible. 10 00:01:41,590 --> 00:01:43,590 Those are the no places. 11 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:56,150 Following a little what O.G. says and contrary to what architects grew up in the 60s and 70s, 12 00:01:56,150 --> 00:02:02,590 identity is not typical of the architecture itself, of the buildings, of the spaces, 13 00:02:02,590 --> 00:02:06,549 but it is something that is typical of individuals and groups of individuals. 14 00:02:06,549 --> 00:02:15,550 Therefore, instead of associating an identity, an image or a historical memory of what was once architecture, 15 00:02:15,550 --> 00:02:22,550 I would try to generate the conditions for the new identities to take place, 16 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:30,550 or going back to what Marc Augé says, for the relationships between individuals to give way to new identities. 17 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:33,550 In other words, I would promote the new relationships. 18 00:02:33,550 --> 00:02:45,280 The non-places fit together and that's why they tend to look alike. 19 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,280 The airports look like the highways, we watch the television on the planes, 20 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,280 we listen to the news filling the tank of our car in the gas stations, 21 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,280 which look more and more like the supermarkets. 22 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,280 In the loneliness of the non-places you can feel in an instant freed from the weight of relationships, 23 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,280 but we do not imagine that it can last more than a few hours. 24 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,280 The black version of the non-places would be the transit spaces where we eternalize ourselves. 25 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,919 The French anthropologist Marc Aubé defined identity as a construction 26 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,919 at an individual level through experiences and relationships with others. 27 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:39,919 According to the belonging of human beings to the different social groups, 28 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:42,919 different identities are cultivated. 29 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:45,919 If we remember the previous definition of identity, 30 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:49,919 we see that human beings are the owners of identity, 31 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:55,919 while places and non-places are nothing more than spaces in time. 32 00:03:55,919 --> 00:03:58,919 It could not be said that identity is sought, 33 00:03:58,919 --> 00:04:01,919 the following phrase, for example, by Mark O'Gay, 34 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:03,919 can help us to understand it. 35 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:07,919 There is no identity without the presence of others, there is no identity without alterity. 36 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:19,300 I will lengthen my arms like branches and with them I will surround the sea. 37 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:25,300 Your fantasies and that afternoon in which for the first time from a drop of water the fire was born. 38 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:30,300 I will lengthen my arms and you let me defend the loneliness with which I write each verse. 39 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:34,639 Cada tarde, cada océano acurrucado en las sombras de tu cuerpo 40 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:38,199 Alargaré mis brazos muy callado y regresaré 41 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:41,279 Al mismo silencio donde siempre te recuerdo 42 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,579 Las mismas veces que te olvido 43 00:04:43,579 --> 00:04:46,560 El no lugar donde te sueño 44 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,339 Ese no lugar donde te sueño es tu voz 45 00:04:50,339 --> 00:04:52,600 Sobre las olas meciendo la tristeza 46 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,980 El amor invisible que navega a tu lado 47 00:04:54,980 --> 00:04:56,800 Sin apenas rozarte 48 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:08,300 What has influenced you the most in your work? 49 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:11,300 I think it has influenced me very positively. 50 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:13,300 Both the artist and the poet. 51 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:17,300 Because the poet, through the non-place, 52 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:19,300 begins to create images, 53 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:22,300 begins to create synestheses, 54 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:25,300 that leads the sounds to new spaces. 55 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:29,300 And those new spaces are places that are created 56 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:34,300 and also spaces that are not yet created, that we do not imagine. 57 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:41,300 And that creates a clash between the spectator and the creator himself. 58 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:44,300 And there are many people who do not understand it. 59 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:51,300 However, throughout literature, let's say Beckett, Samuel Beckett, 60 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:56,300 the absurd theatre has many connotations of non-places. 61 00:05:56,300 --> 00:06:16,300 Let's say the work of Waiting for Godot by Beckett are characters who are always walking in a non-place and waiting for something unreal that they believe is going to come, which is Godot. 62 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:21,899 It is a symbol that we have been working on throughout literature, but it is philosophical. 63 00:06:21,899 --> 00:06:28,300 Only Godot can be death, it can be God, it can be happiness, but that Godot never arrives. 64 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:31,899 And they are in that space, in that space, going around and around. 65 00:06:31,899 --> 00:06:37,300 That is a non-place, it is a place of waiting, like Fan Duilis with Arrabal. 66 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:44,899 And then there are the places of the mind, the places to which we go without wanting the artists, 67 00:06:44,899 --> 00:06:50,379 musicians, dancers, dramaturgs, architects, etc. 68 00:06:50,379 --> 00:06:52,379 they take us by accident, don't they? 69 00:06:52,379 --> 00:06:55,939 For example, Alicia in the Land of Wonders, 70 00:06:55,939 --> 00:07:00,300 Lewis Carroll, put Alicia in a dream. 71 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:02,860 That's a non-place, a dream. 72 00:07:02,860 --> 00:07:07,139 Music takes us to dreams too. 73 00:07:07,139 --> 00:07:09,699 When someone starts playing a piano, 74 00:07:09,699 --> 00:07:13,500 we move and we go to non-places unintentionally. 75 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:21,259 Or a painting. A painting doesn't have to be located in a house, in a forest, no. 76 00:07:21,259 --> 00:07:25,139 I mean, that painting can take me to a place, to a non-place. 77 00:07:25,139 --> 00:07:29,699 We create those places ourselves, and there they are, we are surrounded by non-places. 78 00:07:29,699 --> 00:07:38,139 A theatre without representing a work of theatre or without having anything there is a non-place. 79 00:07:38,139 --> 00:07:42,939 And it starts to be a place, it starts to be a theatre when something is being represented. 80 00:07:42,939 --> 00:07:47,939 And it is not necessary that in that representation there are defined spaces 81 00:07:47,939 --> 00:07:51,939 or there is an aristotelian unity of action, time and place. 82 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:57,939 No, it simply begins to take shape, it begins to take life when there is something there. 83 00:07:57,939 --> 00:08:03,939 There is something in motion or not in motion, simply the spectator is the one who sees, 84 00:08:03,939 --> 00:08:08,939 the one who looks and the creator, the artist, is the one who offers and the one who gives. 85 00:08:08,939 --> 00:08:13,939 That's when communication or place can be made. 86 00:08:13,939 --> 00:08:17,939 The concept of place or non-place is created by us 87 00:08:17,939 --> 00:08:20,939 throughout the creation and liberation of spaces. 88 00:08:20,939 --> 00:08:23,939 Individually, we can make an effort to appreciate 89 00:08:23,939 --> 00:08:26,939 those forgotten corners as hidden secrets 90 00:08:26,939 --> 00:08:37,009 and thus create a new place. 91 00:08:37,009 --> 00:08:40,009 The non-places are nothing more than places that, 92 00:08:40,009 --> 00:08:42,009 covered, remain in oblivion. 93 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:53,850 To forget to 94 00:08:53,850 --> 00:09:00,379 A little like you 95 00:09:00,379 --> 00:09:02,940 Smile 96 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:07,259 A little like you 97 00:09:07,259 --> 00:09:09,559 Remember 98 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,480 To forget to 99 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,220 I'll just remember 100 00:09:16,220 --> 00:09:20,259 To forget to 101 00:09:20,259 --> 00:09:23,559 Just remember