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Hay en el mundo dos tipos de grandeza

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Grandezas de

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de convención

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y grandezas naturales

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Las grandezas de convención

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dependen de la voluntad de los hombres

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que han creído

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con razón que debían honrar

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determinados estados

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y concederles ciertos restritos

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Las dignidades y las noblezas

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son de este tipo

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En un país se honra a los nobles,

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e o que é que está hablando para que o que é que é?

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En un país se honra a los nobles,

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en outro se honra a los cafeteros.

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En uno se dá prioridade a los primogénitos,

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en outro a los niños,

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los pequeños, no manjes,

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los pequeños, los pequeños.

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E iso por que?

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Asquilacuíos, non?

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Porque se han querido os hombres

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E se han salido dos mereces

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Non hai máis fundamento

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De la jerarquía

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Social que é

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Lo han querido os hombres

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As cousas eran

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Diferentes antes da convención

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Pero unha vez que a convención se establecida

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Se convierte en justa

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Porque é injusto perturbar

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Decir de algo que é convención

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Non significa, portanto, para Pascal

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Decir que

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Uno este exento

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De Jesús

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A convención regulariza os sistemas

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De comunicación entre os individuos

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Por tanto

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o máis rentable

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en unha sociedade constituída

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é

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atenerse

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aos seus procedimentos

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é naturalmente

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confundir

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esa convención

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con unha

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realidade ontológicamente

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sustante

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en lo que concierne

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ás grandezas

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estas de tablismo

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non hai

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non hai problema

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pero

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é sencillamente un acordo

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ao que todos nos detenemos

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para non complicarle as outras cousas

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pero é moito máis complicado

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para Pascal definir

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que é iso outro

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a lo que chama

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l'exemple natural

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as grandezas naturales

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as grandezas naturales son aquellas

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que son independientes

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da fantasía dos homens

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porque consisten

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en cualidades irreales

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e efectivas

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do alma ou do corpo

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que facen unha

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nas ciencias

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na luz do Eugenio

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na virtud, na saúde

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na força

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o exemplo

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que Pascal

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a primeira vista

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é sencilla e podría facilitarla

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porque tenemos a un gran matemático

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e a un gran señor

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que

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tínen que comparecer

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a unha

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política pública

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un lugar público

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cual tíne a preferencia

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de paso

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a expuesta de Pascual

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é moi sencilla

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a grandeza de convención

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é unha enadería

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pero se estamos hablando

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de preferencia de paso

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estamos moviéndose en el terreno de la convención

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es decir, en el terreno de las maderías

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por lo tanto, en el terreno de las maderías

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aplicaremos

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la jerarquía

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pero o otro señor sabe muchas más matemáticas que este

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y por lo tanto debería ser más respetado

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que este

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y el otro señor se la respeta

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haciendo otro tema matemático

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no entrando primero o segundo

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pero para los aspectos

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naturales

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que consisten en la estima

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de que por firme a ellos

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no debemos

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no les debemos más que gigantezas

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y debemos por el contrario

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el desprecio y la aversión

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a las cualidades contrarias

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a esas gigantezas naturales

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y no es necesario

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que por el hecho de que vos seáis duque

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y aquí viene una metáfora extraña

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y no es necesario que por el hecho de que vos

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seáis duque

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yo os estime

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ahora sí

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sí es necesario que os salve

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os podré considerar

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el hijo de perra de la ciudad

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el protocolo es

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inviolable entre individuos

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que porque seáis duque os estime

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pero sí

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es necesario que os salve

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si vos sois

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duque

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de hombre de bien

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le otorgaré

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lo que es debido

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a cada una de esas dos cualidades

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no os negaré

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las ceremonias que merece

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vuestra calidad de duque

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ni la estima

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que merece

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la de hombre de bien

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el país duque sin ser hombre de bien

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os seguiría

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haciendo justicia

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puesto que

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concediéndoos los deberes exteriores

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que el orden de los hombres liga

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a nuestro nacimiento, no que están ligados

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a nuestro nacimiento, que el orden

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de los hombres liga a nuestro nacimiento

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no dejaré por ello

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el mismo desprecio interior

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que merecería

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el ejemplo supremo

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quien

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la primacía

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si estamos en un acto de corte

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e aquí en que consiste

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la justicia destas leyes

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la injusticia consiste en

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conceder respetos naturales

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o bien en exigir

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respetos de convención

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ás grandezas naturales

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o señor N

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un geómetro superior a mi

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eu sou como matemático

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e en tal conceito

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quere pasar por delante de mi

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entón me diré que non he entendido nada

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a geometría é unha grandeza

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exige unha preferencia de estimo

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Pero

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O acto de poder

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En el cual consiste a grandeza

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O espacio del negativo

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Ninguna preferencia exterior

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O matemático

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Un átomo de excelencia

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en ser colocado

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na cabecera da mesa do rei

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porque tiñes unha grandeza natural

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e exige unha preferencia exterior

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pero os homens

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non unirán a ella

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ninguna preferencia exterior

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ningún protocolo de corte

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pasaré, por tanto,

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por delante de él

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e ao mesmo tempo

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moi superior a mi

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os ámbitos

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de garantiza real

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non serían

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en sentido propio codificables

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o que chamamos

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o que chamamos

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códigos ou protocolos

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sociales

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espacio

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tanto que determinación

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a terceira jornada parece transcurrir

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seguidades sobre os anteriores

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dos terceiras partes de

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se vuelve sobre

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a definición de lo que sea

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un gran señor

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e agora se pode

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de tal modo

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como atizar

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concretar

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un gran señor

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é o que pode

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proporcionar

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a satisfacción

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de aqueles deseos

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que a súa própria

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rede de imaxen

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ha generado

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en ese sentido

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en un fuerte paralelo

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con a categoría de cupiditas

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que utiliza

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para definir

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as dinámicas do poder

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o que

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Pascal

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passa a

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explicitar

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na primeira parte do terceiro discurso

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é que ser rei

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toda

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toda función de poder

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ser poderoso, ser grande, ser rey

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en un índice

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ser rey

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é ser

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rey de conquista

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potestad

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de generar deseos

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imaginario, pues, no es por todo

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e de darse a sí mismo

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como la única

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potencia capaz

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la dependencia de los sujetos

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ante el rey náufrago

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proyectar sobre él

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un teatro

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00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,120
de deseos

293
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,580
que sin necesidad siquiera

294
00:14:56,580 --> 00:14:58,059
de que el otro individuo diga nada

295
00:14:58,059 --> 00:15:02,360
son puestos por el siervo

296
00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:13,809
como susceptibles de satisfacerse

297
00:15:13,809 --> 00:15:22,480
en la consumación

298
00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,120
de la potencia del amor,

299
00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:29,610
de la potencia del ser.

300
00:15:30,190 --> 00:15:34,080
Todo el juego de la dependencia

301
00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:40,210
es de imágenes

302
00:15:40,210 --> 00:15:50,549
que ni siquiera el rey,

303
00:15:50,549 --> 00:15:51,990
rei

304
00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:53,070
que nesiquera

305
00:15:53,070 --> 00:15:55,750
o grande

306
00:15:55,750 --> 00:15:58,850
teña que

307
00:15:58,850 --> 00:16:00,909
poner de un modo explícito

308
00:16:00,909 --> 00:16:04,379
sino que

309
00:16:04,379 --> 00:16:06,279
a carencia

310
00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:07,419
a insuficiencia

311
00:16:07,419 --> 00:16:09,960
do súbdito

312
00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,860
proxecta

313
00:16:12,860 --> 00:16:14,279
como unha necesidade

314
00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:15,659
compensatória

315
00:16:15,659 --> 00:16:18,080
en un outro

316
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,659
que este por encima

317
00:16:20,659 --> 00:16:22,019
de sus propias limitas

318
00:16:22,019 --> 00:16:34,879
O espacio do poder é o espacio de unha gran comedia

319
00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:43,080
a la cual todos, o sometido como o dominante,

320
00:16:47,149 --> 00:16:52,240
se hallan inalterablemente atados.

321
00:16:52,240 --> 00:17:00,220
Nos pensamentos, Pascal utilizará

322
00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:03,299
unha expresión

323
00:17:03,299 --> 00:17:08,279
corda de forza, corda de imaginación,

324
00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:09,819
ataduras

325
00:17:09,819 --> 00:17:12,819
de forza, ataduras de imaginación

326
00:17:12,819 --> 00:17:14,779
o que chamamos ataduras

327
00:17:14,779 --> 00:17:16,019
de forza

328
00:17:16,019 --> 00:17:18,819
son esencialmente

329
00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:26,799
hasta ahí

330
00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:27,819
digo

331
00:17:27,819 --> 00:17:31,359
Pascal

332
00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,380
está ante sus oyentes

333
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,500
desarrollando

334
00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:46,059
una concepción

335
00:17:46,059 --> 00:17:47,559
como decir

336
00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:54,250
unha concepción ortodoxamente

337
00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:55,509
maquiavelínea del poder

338
00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:57,450
la que

339
00:17:57,450 --> 00:18:00,490
en la Francia del XVII

340
00:18:00,490 --> 00:18:02,470
han desarrollado

341
00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:04,309
sobre todo

342
00:18:04,309 --> 00:18:10,910
Nicolas Faguet

343
00:18:10,910 --> 00:18:13,190
en L'Olécton Moulard de Pierre Galacourt

344
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:14,930
e más que Faguet

345
00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:17,269
el personaje que les citaba ya la semana pasada

346
00:18:17,269 --> 00:18:18,769
Damien Mitton

347
00:18:18,769 --> 00:18:22,089
en La Cerca de la Honestidad

348
00:18:22,089 --> 00:18:24,950
Para definir a ese tipo

349
00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:26,609
De poderoso

350
00:18:26,609 --> 00:18:29,309
Fade como un tom

351
00:18:29,309 --> 00:18:32,670
O merrey

352
00:18:32,670 --> 00:18:35,569
Utilizarán

353
00:18:35,569 --> 00:18:41,390
Prioritariamente

354
00:18:41,390 --> 00:18:43,690
O término

355
00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:44,809
Que acabamos de ver utilizar

356
00:18:44,809 --> 00:18:45,609
A pascada

357
00:18:45,609 --> 00:18:47,789
Que he pasado por la traducción

358
00:18:47,789 --> 00:18:49,230
Para non liarla

359
00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:50,089
En ese momento

360
00:18:50,089 --> 00:18:51,670
O netón

361
00:18:51,670 --> 00:18:59,799
Como a lactografía

362
00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:00,920
En el XVII no está ficada

363
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,619
Confecuencia la encontrarán como

364
00:19:02,619 --> 00:19:03,680
Honesto

365
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:10,650
Figura

366
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:16,200
En la cual la idea

367
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,660
Maquiaveliana

368
00:19:17,660 --> 00:19:20,859
De configurar

369
00:19:20,859 --> 00:19:22,400
El modelo del poder

370
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,599
Sobre

371
00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:26,259
El doble eje

372
00:19:26,259 --> 00:19:31,029
Del miedo y la esperanza

373
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:43,279
Eje del miedo y la esperanza

374
00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:45,079
Que Maquiavelo

375
00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:46,779
Toma del escudo

376
00:19:46,779 --> 00:19:48,220
de la casa deste

377
00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:50,220
que vos podes saber deste

378
00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:53,359
nec metu

379
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,960
e que

380
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,220
procede

381
00:19:56,220 --> 00:19:57,740
de un

382
00:19:57,740 --> 00:19:59,900
de un

383
00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:02,319
pasaje

384
00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:04,220
do post-reito en senato

385
00:20:04,220 --> 00:20:05,720
de Perón

386
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,380
para

387
00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:10,019
indicar

388
00:20:10,019 --> 00:20:12,880
como

389
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,740
es

390
00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:16,680
no sólo

391
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,380
o ámbito do constrictivo

392
00:20:18,380 --> 00:20:24,410
é necesario, pero funcionando por si só

393
00:20:24,410 --> 00:20:26,950
non podría

394
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:28,210
completar os objetivos

395
00:20:28,210 --> 00:20:30,069
é o ámbito

396
00:20:30,069 --> 00:20:33,410
das esperanzas imaginarias

397
00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:35,150
o que liga

398
00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:36,529
esencialmente

399
00:20:36,529 --> 00:20:38,450
aos individuos

400
00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:41,130
á dependencia respecto do seu príncipe

401
00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:43,009
ou do seu rei

402
00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:44,509
até aí digo

403
00:20:44,509 --> 00:20:46,809
pouca diferencia

404
00:20:46,809 --> 00:20:48,529
habría entre

405
00:20:48,529 --> 00:20:49,769
Pascal

406
00:20:49,769 --> 00:20:53,750
que esa variedad

407
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:54,950
de maquiavelismo

408
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:57,170
estricto

409
00:20:57,170 --> 00:21:00,410
que es la de los libertinos

410
00:21:00,410 --> 00:21:01,609
que

411
00:21:01,609 --> 00:21:02,769
la

412
00:21:02,769 --> 00:21:04,769
que era mitad del XVII

413
00:21:04,769 --> 00:21:06,170
con los cuales

414
00:21:06,170 --> 00:21:07,450
o que más

415
00:21:07,450 --> 00:21:14,539
todo está muy bien hasta ese punto

416
00:21:14,539 --> 00:21:22,069
para ser rey

417
00:21:22,069 --> 00:21:23,089
Y mantener el poder

418
00:21:23,089 --> 00:21:26,390
Lo que hay que hacer es desplegar deseos

419
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:28,750
Y garantizar

420
00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:30,829
La capacidad de satisfacernos

421
00:21:30,829 --> 00:21:32,190
Y generar la convicción

422
00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:34,569
De que sólo yo puedo satisfacernos

423
00:21:34,569 --> 00:21:43,220
No es vuestra fuerza

424
00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:45,700
Ni vuestra potencia natural

425
00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:47,200
La que os mantendrá

426
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,200
Sometidas a todas esas personas

427
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,339
No pretendáis pues

428
00:21:51,339 --> 00:21:52,660
Dominarlas por la fuerza

429
00:21:52,660 --> 00:21:54,559
Ni arrastrarlas con dureza

430
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,940
Contentad

431
00:21:56,940 --> 00:21:58,440
Sus deseos

432
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,480
Aliviad sus necesidades

433
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,480
Porque é o sistema de someterlos

434
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000
Poned

435
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,119
Vostro propio placer en ser benefactor

436
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,730
Hacedlos prosperar

437
00:22:14,730 --> 00:22:15,690
Cando podáis

438
00:22:15,690 --> 00:22:19,029
E que sucederá se facéis todo iso?

439
00:22:19,950 --> 00:22:20,390
Que seréis

440
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:22,289
Un rei de convocistencia

441
00:22:22,289 --> 00:22:24,609
Un rei capaz de despertar deseos

442
00:22:24,609 --> 00:22:25,650
E satisfacerlos

443
00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:28,390
Perfecto, é a imaxen perfecta

444
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:29,450
Del rei libertado

445
00:22:29,450 --> 00:22:31,990
Están terminando as conferencias

446
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:34,509
Queda o último párrafo

447
00:22:34,509 --> 00:22:36,109
De la última conferencia

448
00:22:36,109 --> 00:22:38,910
Habéis entendido

449
00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:40,890
O que os he expuesto

450
00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:45,140
Se pexurí

451
00:22:45,140 --> 00:22:46,039
Neva pá

452
00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:47,099
Bien

453
00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:49,380
Lo que os acabo de decir

454
00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:50,599
No lleva a ningún

455
00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:56,890
Y si os queráis en ello

456
00:22:56,890 --> 00:22:58,029
Es decir, se facéis isto

457
00:22:58,029 --> 00:23:01,289
Del estupendo rey

458
00:23:01,289 --> 00:23:02,650
Generoso

459
00:23:02,650 --> 00:23:04,509
Que satisface os deseos

460
00:23:04,509 --> 00:23:06,369
de seus súbditos e todo isto

461
00:23:06,369 --> 00:23:08,470
e o creio humanitario

462
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:11,769
e se os quedáis en eixo

463
00:23:11,769 --> 00:23:14,549
non podréis evitar condenaros

464
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:17,369
iso sí

465
00:23:17,369 --> 00:23:20,269
os condenaréis

466
00:23:20,269 --> 00:23:21,609
a non é todo

467
00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:23,829
como hombre de vida

468
00:23:23,829 --> 00:23:27,450
e bueno, hai gentes que se condenan

469
00:23:27,450 --> 00:23:28,569
tan estupidamente

470
00:23:28,569 --> 00:23:30,910
por causa da malicia, da impunidad

471
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:33,190
do divertinaje, da violencia

472
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:35,349
dos arrebatos, das blasfemias

473
00:23:35,349 --> 00:23:36,950
Bueno, a fin de cuentas

474
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:37,750
O medio que

475
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:40,269
Os acabo de abrir

476
00:23:40,269 --> 00:23:42,750
É sin dúda un medio

477
00:23:42,750 --> 00:23:44,250
Que condecarse

478
00:23:44,250 --> 00:23:45,289
Un medio que condecarse

479
00:23:45,289 --> 00:23:46,589
Más honesto

480
00:23:46,589 --> 00:23:48,250
Pero

481
00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:49,890
A decir verdad

482
00:23:49,890 --> 00:23:53,109
Pienso yo que sigue siendo

483
00:23:53,109 --> 00:23:53,910
Una verdad que locura

484
00:23:53,910 --> 00:23:54,809
Lo de condenarse

485
00:23:54,809 --> 00:23:57,670
Y es por ello

486
00:23:57,670 --> 00:24:00,130
Por lo que

487
00:24:00,130 --> 00:24:01,970
No debe usted permanecer ahí

488
00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:03,410
De cabeza

489
00:24:03,410 --> 00:24:06,089
la concepción

490
00:24:06,089 --> 00:24:07,210
impecable

491
00:24:07,210 --> 00:24:08,390
del ejercicio del poder

492
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:11,630
la moralmente

493
00:24:11,630 --> 00:24:13,250
más ajustada

494
00:24:13,250 --> 00:24:15,170
a continuación

495
00:24:15,170 --> 00:24:17,710
le dice que ese es el modo perfecto de condenarse

496
00:24:17,710 --> 00:24:19,190
el modo honesto de condenarse

497
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:21,710
que aunque en estas formas parece un poco

498
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:22,769
loco lo de condenarse

499
00:24:22,769 --> 00:24:25,549
y que no dejen por lo tanto

500
00:24:25,549 --> 00:24:27,410
atenerse a ello, pues si no le atenes a ello

501
00:24:27,410 --> 00:24:28,470
¿a qué debe atenerse?

502
00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:31,069
porque primero han rechazado

503
00:24:31,069 --> 00:24:32,769
las formas, digamos

504
00:24:32,769 --> 00:24:34,730
mitades de poder

505
00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:36,230
ahora está diciendo

506
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:38,210
que la forma honesta

507
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:39,069
de ejercer el poder

508
00:24:39,069 --> 00:24:41,170
es una forma de ponderación honesta

509
00:24:41,170 --> 00:24:47,259
no debéis

510
00:24:47,259 --> 00:24:49,079
permanecer en eso

511
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,680
es necesario

512
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,039
despreciar la concupiscencia

513
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:56,839
y su reino

514
00:24:56,839 --> 00:24:58,859
acabamos de decir

515
00:24:58,859 --> 00:25:00,579
que el reino

516
00:25:00,579 --> 00:25:06,900
de un rey de este mundo

517
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:08,539
es un reino de concupiscencia

518
00:25:08,539 --> 00:25:09,059
no hay otro

519
00:25:09,059 --> 00:25:12,759
Hay que desprecerla con provistencia

520
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:13,279
Su reino

521
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,539
Y expirar a ese reino de caridad

522
00:25:15,539 --> 00:25:18,380
En el que todos los sujetos

523
00:25:18,380 --> 00:25:21,480
No respiran más que la caridad

524
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,599
Y no desean más que los bienes de la caridad

525
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,220
Realmente uno se imagina

526
00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:28,940
El estupor de no ser gente

527
00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:31,839
Sobre todo con la convicción de Pascual

528
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:34,259
Bueno

529
00:25:34,259 --> 00:25:36,240
Otros

530
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,680
No yo

531
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,740
outros

532
00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:41,740
outros, non yo

533
00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:43,559
vos enseñarán

534
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:48,250
a mi me corresponde

535
00:25:48,250 --> 00:25:48,569
só

536
00:25:48,569 --> 00:25:51,829
el haberos apartado

537
00:25:51,829 --> 00:25:52,950
de esas

538
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:55,369
vidas mentales

539
00:25:55,369 --> 00:26:00,420
a las cuales veo

540
00:26:00,420 --> 00:26:01,579
a tantos

541
00:26:01,579 --> 00:26:04,539
de vuestra condición de darse llevar

542
00:26:04,539 --> 00:26:09,740
a falta

543
00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:11,920
de conocer adecuadamente

544
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,839
el estado de esta

545
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:15,779
verdadera condición

546
00:26:15,779 --> 00:26:20,319
A conclusión pascaliana é perfectamente clara.

547
00:26:22,099 --> 00:26:29,740
Non hai exercicio mundano do poder

548
00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:35,809
articulado por a verdade.

549
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,119
O poder é sistema de ficción

550
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,910
e iso implica necesariamente

551
00:26:46,910 --> 00:26:51,589
que a expresión príncipe cristiano

552
00:26:51,589 --> 00:26:54,029
sea pura

553
00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:55,769
e sencillamente unha axila

554
00:26:55,769 --> 00:26:57,369
estamos aquí

555
00:26:57,369 --> 00:27:00,869
el honetón

556
00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:03,589
cumple

557
00:27:03,589 --> 00:27:04,910
con todos sus deberes

558
00:27:04,910 --> 00:27:07,190
es un buen súbdito

559
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:09,250
un buen marido, un buen padre, un buen amigo

560
00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:11,450
un buen ciudadano, un buen amo

561
00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:13,609
es indulgente, humano

562
00:27:13,609 --> 00:27:17,589
caritativo

563
00:27:17,589 --> 00:27:19,289
y sensible

564
00:27:19,289 --> 00:27:20,630
a las desdichas de los otros

565
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:22,529
es circunspecto, modesto

566
00:27:22,529 --> 00:27:29,740
non se face

567
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:30,920
o pretencioso

568
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,819
e o preciosista, é discreto

569
00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:37,640
observa os defectos

570
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,160
dos outros, pero non se fala

571
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,720
deles, e face como se non os viera

572
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,940
non é interesado

573
00:27:44,940 --> 00:27:46,900
pero como conoce

574
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,559
as necesidades da vida

575
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:51,960
o seu comportamento

576
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,279
non é nunca

577
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,240
desajustado

578
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,980
e jamás vive no desorden

579
00:27:56,980 --> 00:28:01,539
non o afecta máis

580
00:28:01,539 --> 00:28:03,099
que o verdadeiro mérito

581
00:28:03,099 --> 00:28:05,480
iso a lo cual

582
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,759
chaman grandeza, autoridade, fortuna

583
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:08,460
riqueza

584
00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:10,660
nada disso le encanta

585
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:14,410
delimita

586
00:28:14,410 --> 00:28:16,089
á perfección

587
00:28:16,089 --> 00:28:18,369
os placeres e as penas

588
00:28:18,369 --> 00:28:20,670
lo cual le impide á veces

589
00:28:20,670 --> 00:28:23,289
tomar o caminho que leva á fortuna

590
00:28:23,289 --> 00:28:30,470
o plamancial placer

591
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:31,250
que é a fortuna

592
00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:34,789
e aun cando seja

593
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:35,950
de agradable

594
00:28:35,950 --> 00:28:37,849
e boa companía

595
00:28:37,849 --> 00:28:43,109
non é

596
00:28:43,109 --> 00:28:45,369
adicionado ás festas

597
00:28:45,369 --> 00:28:47,769
é moi recóndito

598
00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:52,250
non gosta de salir á luz do dia

599
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:55,750
e dificilmente

600
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:57,509
se ve exibirse

601
00:28:57,509 --> 00:28:59,250
en el teatro del mito

602
00:28:59,250 --> 00:29:04,099
eso es la mía mito

603
00:29:04,099 --> 00:29:06,039
el de Pazes y el de Netón

604
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,799
la cita del día pasado

605
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,000
naturalmente

606
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,000
una cosa a prosito de esto

607
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,180
el concepto de Netón

608
00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:17,980
no puede ser una especie de

609
00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:19,740
en vez del cortesano

610
00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:22,359
porque parece que es exactamente

611
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,440
lo que no tiene que ser un cortesano

612
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,880
que la discreció

613
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,480
y por otra parte

614
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,980
que relación hai en esos consejos

615
00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:31,920
de esta última parte

616
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,019
que usted nos ha evidentemente expuesto

617
00:29:34,019 --> 00:29:35,380
que relación hai con

618
00:29:35,380 --> 00:29:36,819
lo que está pasando en Inglaterra

619
00:29:36,819 --> 00:29:40,059
es decir, me refiero a que el rey inglés

620
00:29:40,059 --> 00:29:41,779
está siendo cuestionado

621
00:29:41,779 --> 00:29:43,920
y a punto de perder la cabeza

622
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,339
es decir, cuidado que tu posición

623
00:29:45,339 --> 00:29:47,819
no es una posición esencial

624
00:29:47,819 --> 00:29:50,579
porque mira lo que está pasando con este rey inglés

625
00:29:50,579 --> 00:29:52,440
en 1660

626
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,299
no tengo, a lo mejor

627
00:29:54,299 --> 00:29:55,759
un poco antes

628
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:57,059
pero estamos en ese ámbito

629
00:29:57,059 --> 00:29:58,920
onde en Inglaterra se está produciendo

630
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,359
unhas revolucións republicanas

631
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,059
e isto tamén pierde un pouco de metafísica

632
00:30:03,059 --> 00:30:04,779
pero sí que ese consejo

633
00:30:04,779 --> 00:30:06,440
al príncipe es cuidado

634
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,700
atención, porque

635
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,460
non é esencial, pois o que pode pasar

636
00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,279
ou está pululando aí

637
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:13,779
isto de poner en cuestión

638
00:30:13,779 --> 00:30:16,220
a esencia da autoridade real

639
00:30:16,220 --> 00:30:17,579
por cuestiónes políticas

640
00:30:17,579 --> 00:30:18,880
máis ou menos é esta

641
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,099
vamos a ver, por parte

642
00:30:22,099 --> 00:30:24,099
se lo referido al Onetón

643
00:30:24,099 --> 00:30:29,660
é a variedade maquiaveliana

644
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:31,160
do cortesano

645
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,059
é a variedade

646
00:30:33,059 --> 00:30:34,779
do cortesano

647
00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:37,099
moderno

648
00:30:37,099 --> 00:30:37,460
que

649
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:40,859
prima completamente

650
00:30:40,859 --> 00:30:43,119
a esfera da funcionalidade

651
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:50,150
e nesa etimofía

652
00:30:50,150 --> 00:30:52,170
nesa etimofía da funcionalidade

653
00:30:52,170 --> 00:30:54,250
situa o ámbito do imaginario

654
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:58,259
como que de algún modo

655
00:30:58,259 --> 00:31:00,059
regula os usos mesmos

656
00:31:00,059 --> 00:31:01,079
da forza

657
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:10,869
O netón é a expresión que suelen utilizar para autodefinirse estes personagens,

658
00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:19,089
sobretudo nestes momentos onde já se registraron as primeiras dificultades,

659
00:31:19,089 --> 00:31:30,559
as primeiras dificultades serias dos sucesores con conflitos de poder moi graves.

660
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,279
Desde fora non se les chama netón.

661
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:34,720
desde fora

662
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,180
o termino que se utiliza é

663
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:41,049
libertinus

664
00:31:41,049 --> 00:31:43,509
libertinus é probablemente

665
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:45,529
o termino

666
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:47,910
de desplazamento

667
00:31:47,910 --> 00:31:49,210
léxico máis radical

668
00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:51,009
ao longo do período

669
00:31:51,009 --> 00:31:51,529
que vai

670
00:31:51,529 --> 00:31:54,049
de mediados

671
00:31:54,049 --> 00:31:55,849
de XVI

672
00:31:55,849 --> 00:31:57,150
hasta

673
00:31:57,150 --> 00:32:01,210
non só esta segunda mitad

674
00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:02,589
de XVII

675
00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:04,390
que está dicendo Pascal

676
00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:05,369
sino

677
00:32:05,369 --> 00:32:07,970
hasta llegar a 18

678
00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:10,490
con un trastueque

679
00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:11,869
completo de conceptos

680
00:32:11,869 --> 00:32:12,970
Libactant

681
00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:16,880
ha sido

682
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,920
primero

683
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,259
un término de

684
00:32:21,259 --> 00:32:23,660
polémica religiosa

685
00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:27,140
o término Libactant

686
00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:29,259
aparece en Calvino

687
00:32:29,259 --> 00:32:33,839
aparece en Calvino

688
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:35,039
en un libro

689
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:46,670
en un panfleto

690
00:32:46,670 --> 00:32:48,009
de Calvino

691
00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:51,210
contra un grupo

692
00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:52,450
importante

693
00:32:52,450 --> 00:32:53,849
de sus adversarios

694
00:32:53,849 --> 00:32:55,650
en Sinebra

695
00:32:55,650 --> 00:32:58,230
en ese momento

696
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:59,150
Libertino

697
00:32:59,150 --> 00:33:02,390
por tanto, é un

698
00:33:02,390 --> 00:33:03,710
término

699
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:06,849
que designa unha corriente religiosa

700
00:33:06,849 --> 00:33:08,390
unha corriente

701
00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:09,150
que é a própria Calvino

702
00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:10,049
a herética

703
00:33:10,049 --> 00:33:12,529
e que tal como Calvino la define

704
00:33:12,529 --> 00:33:15,349
en su tratado

705
00:33:15,349 --> 00:33:22,650
con el siglo

706
00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:28,950
que así mismo se llaman espirituales

707
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:35,069
Calvino

708
00:33:35,069 --> 00:33:36,950
lo utiliza para

709
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:38,970
definir

710
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:42,009
unha especie de

711
00:33:42,009 --> 00:33:43,869
tentación de retorno

712
00:33:43,869 --> 00:33:47,529
al cristianismo primitivo

713
00:33:47,529 --> 00:33:52,900
el término de sus orígenes

714
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:54,599
no tiene realmente nada que ver

715
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:56,599
con lo que en el siglo posterior

716
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:57,559
se está derivando

717
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,400
el libertino, si quieren ustedes entender

718
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,779
un poquitín lo que significa por lo menos en sus orígenes

719
00:34:02,779 --> 00:34:04,119
tienen que

720
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,119
llevarlo

721
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:11,019
a su matriz etimológica

722
00:34:11,019 --> 00:34:14,420
el término

723
00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:15,579
de libertines

724
00:34:15,579 --> 00:34:17,340
aparece

725
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:21,940
aparece en la Vulgata

726
00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:23,800
en la versión de la Vulgata

727
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,239
de los hechos de los apóstoles

728
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,940
para referirse

729
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:32,360
os digo que hay que repetirlo

730
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,559
a su matriz

731
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,780
léxica

732
00:34:37,780 --> 00:34:40,019
que se utilizaba en la Vulgata

733
00:34:40,019 --> 00:34:41,719
para referirse

734
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,480
a unha comunidade

735
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,000
de cristianos

736
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,840
filhos de esclavos libertos

737
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,780
un libertino

738
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:55,639
é un liberto pequenito

739
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,579
é o filho do liberto

740
00:34:57,579 --> 00:35:01,860
e en fin, aparecen os hechos dos apóstoles

741
00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:02,840
para referirse

742
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,159
aos conflictos

743
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,630
que se san Esteban

744
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:12,289
con a sinagoga

745
00:35:12,289 --> 00:35:13,570
dos libertinos

746
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:14,150
con o cual

747
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:17,769
Calvino

748
00:35:17,769 --> 00:35:21,150
con seguridade

749
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:24,469
tenendo a vista

750
00:35:24,469 --> 00:35:25,889
o uso

751
00:35:25,889 --> 00:35:30,199
o uso casi

752
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:31,159
carpocraciano

753
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:34,639
que facen estes grupos

754
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:36,780
de cristianos de Ginerba

755
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:40,599
dos textos de San Pablo

756
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:43,420
remite

757
00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:46,619
os asimila a estes divertidos

758
00:35:46,619 --> 00:35:47,280
que están

759
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,000
no origen do conflito

760
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,960
con San Esteban

761
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,019
precisamente para

762
00:35:54,019 --> 00:35:55,239
marcar

763
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,619
que serían os

764
00:35:57,619 --> 00:36:00,199
representantes en seu tempo

765
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:01,519
de unha

766
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:04,440
tendencia já herética

767
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,800
desde o seu nascimento

768
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,920
en el cristianismo

769
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:13,150
como demonios

770
00:36:13,150 --> 00:36:15,849
se desplaza

771
00:36:15,849 --> 00:36:16,289
iso

772
00:36:16,289 --> 00:36:19,949
como demonios se desplaza

773
00:36:19,949 --> 00:36:20,929
iso para que

774
00:36:20,929 --> 00:36:29,539
desde o inicio do XVII francés

775
00:36:29,539 --> 00:36:42,429
la moto, la billet, pero sobre todo

776
00:36:42,429 --> 00:36:43,670
Gabriel Naudet

777
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:50,920
pasen a utilizarlo

778
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,480
como denominación

779
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,159
especificamente francesa

780
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:01,760
de la

781
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,380
concepción

782
00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:07,139
formulada por Machiavelli

783
00:37:07,139 --> 00:37:09,099
nos comentarios sobre Tito Livio

784
00:37:09,099 --> 00:37:12,570
de

785
00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:15,050
a completa distinción

786
00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:16,289
entre o ámbito

787
00:37:16,289 --> 00:37:18,690
político mundano

788
00:37:18,690 --> 00:37:20,449
e o ámbito da religión

789
00:37:20,449 --> 00:37:24,030
é un salto léxico

790
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:24,949
asombroso

791
00:37:24,949 --> 00:37:27,849
e que na miña opinión vale a pena

792
00:37:27,849 --> 00:37:28,869
ser investigado

793
00:37:28,869 --> 00:37:32,269
e non é fácil de entender como se produce

794
00:37:32,269 --> 00:37:33,829
esta disfunción

795
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:35,030
Pero en el XVII ya

796
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:37,590
Del contenido de Calvino en el XVI

797
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:38,610
No queda nada

798
00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:40,289
Cando se habla de Libertino

799
00:37:40,289 --> 00:37:42,250
Se está hablando de la motel de Vellé

800
00:37:42,250 --> 00:37:45,250
Se está hablando de Nodé

801
00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:47,489
El autor de un tratado

802
00:37:47,489 --> 00:37:50,050
Astuoso sobre os gozos de Estado

803
00:37:50,050 --> 00:37:51,929
Que es el tratado

804
00:37:51,929 --> 00:37:53,150
Que crea la expresión

805
00:37:53,150 --> 00:37:57,789
El rayo que fulmina

806
00:37:57,789 --> 00:37:59,730
Antes de que el trueno podase escuchar

807
00:37:59,730 --> 00:38:11,000
Este sentido

808
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,940
é o que

809
00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:16,780
opera en Pascal

810
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:21,000
que naturalmente está tratando

811
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,099
de dar unha resposta

812
00:38:23,099 --> 00:38:25,079
a ese grupo de amigos

813
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:26,539
que así mismo se denomina

814
00:38:26,539 --> 00:38:28,599
non é Tom, pero que

815
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:30,659
en el medio religioso

816
00:38:30,659 --> 00:38:33,159
son asimilados

817
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:34,579
al concepto de libertino

818
00:38:34,579 --> 00:38:37,400
y frente a los cuales

819
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,539
el gran corresponsal

820
00:38:42,539 --> 00:38:44,380
de Descartes, de Descartes y de todo el mundo

821
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:46,820
porque es el pulzón de cruces

822
00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:48,119
ahora corresponde decía

823
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:49,559
un intelectual de la época

824
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:50,940
el padre Moussen

825
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:54,199
ha escrito un descomunal

826
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:58,179
tratado

827
00:38:58,179 --> 00:39:03,849
que

828
00:39:03,849 --> 00:39:07,130
nos sitúa como

829
00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:09,269
enemigo

830
00:39:09,269 --> 00:39:11,730
fundamental del pensamiento

831
00:39:11,730 --> 00:39:12,530
cristiano

832
00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:14,309
en nuestro siglo

833
00:39:14,309 --> 00:39:17,210
todavía sin embargo

834
00:39:17,210 --> 00:39:19,110
en ese periodo

835
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:22,820
o libertinismo

836
00:39:22,820 --> 00:39:23,900
do que se está ornando

837
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:25,360
é

838
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,400
un libertinismo especulativo

839
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,639
primeiro foi un libertinismo

840
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:31,260
religioso

841
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:33,760
despues un libertinismo

842
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,280
especulativo

843
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,519
que é o que estudia

844
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:41,539
estupendamente

845
00:39:41,539 --> 00:39:44,340
o autor

846
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:46,179
do gran libro sobre esa cuestión

847
00:39:46,179 --> 00:39:47,780
que é René Tintag

848
00:39:47,780 --> 00:39:50,159
o libro

849
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:52,280
se non me engano é de 1940

850
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,280
ou por aí

851
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,739
Le libertinage

852
00:39:57,739 --> 00:39:58,619
en France

853
00:39:58,619 --> 00:39:59,780
en la première moite

854
00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:00,440
du XVII

855
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,780
non, no premier tiers

856
00:40:02,780 --> 00:40:03,940
do XVII

857
00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:08,840
o novo salto léxico

858
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,699
asombroso é por que demonios

859
00:40:10,699 --> 00:40:11,380
e como

860
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:15,300
de unha designación religiosa

861
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:16,679
logo especulativa

862
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:18,800
se pasa a unha

863
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,119
designación

864
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:26,360
ligada ao ámbito

865
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,219
das costumbres

866
00:40:27,219 --> 00:40:30,039
que é a que primará

867
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:31,079
na designación

868
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:33,960
do terreno libertino

869
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,840
no siglo XVIII

870
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,639
actualmente, o que dá origen

871
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:42,260
á toda a literatura libertina

872
00:40:42,260 --> 00:40:43,599
do siglo XVIII

873
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:46,360
á toda esta tradición

874
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,159
que dá un modo

875
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:50,079
a todo o que

876
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:57,380
pero que finalmente en la obra de Sade

877
00:40:57,380 --> 00:41:04,820
ya en el tránsito al XIX

878
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:16,769
¿Qué demonios es lo que mantiene la continuidad

879
00:41:16,769 --> 00:41:19,190
en una misma palabra libertino

880
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:21,989
de tres fenómenos

881
00:41:21,989 --> 00:41:24,730
todos eles designados en términos polémicos

882
00:41:24,730 --> 00:41:29,789
completamente diferenciados entre sí

883
00:41:29,789 --> 00:41:33,030
e anudados bajo

884
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:38,030
o único contenedor

885
00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:42,670
de un término proveniente de la vulgata

886
00:41:42,670 --> 00:41:45,929
para designar

887
00:41:45,929 --> 00:41:48,530
nisiquera unha herejía

888
00:41:48,530 --> 00:41:50,429
porque a vulgata non está designando unha herejía

889
00:41:50,429 --> 00:41:51,130
está designando

890
00:41:51,130 --> 00:41:53,409
o grupo de cristianos

891
00:41:53,409 --> 00:41:54,469
que se ponen

892
00:41:54,469 --> 00:41:55,610
na sinagoga

893
00:41:55,610 --> 00:41:57,130
é un grupo de

894
00:41:57,130 --> 00:42:01,050
é un dos temas de investigación maiores

895
00:42:01,050 --> 00:42:02,710
en España recientemente aparecido

896
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:04,170
un moi bonito libro sobre isso

897
00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:05,989
e eu creo que é o único que hai en España

898
00:42:05,989 --> 00:42:08,630
que é o libro de Pedro Lomba

899
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:11,250
sobre o libertinismo

900
00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:11,989
no siglo XVII

901
00:42:11,989 --> 00:42:16,820
é un dos temas maiores de investigación

902
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:18,139
sobre XVII

903
00:42:18,139 --> 00:42:19,119
o que vemos a usted

904
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,480
de Inglaterra

905
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,340
hombre, sin duda

906
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:28,760
sin duda, el fenómeno inglés

907
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,900
lo que ha hecho ha sido

908
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:32,039
desacralizar de algún modo

909
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:33,300
la figura del rey

910
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,239
se a un rey se le puede cortar la cabeza

911
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,440
es que no está tan clara

912
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,360
la dimensión sacral

913
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,639
aun cuando, como recuerda usted, Hobbes

914
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:43,679
precisamente salva

915
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:45,840
salva el dilema

916
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,719
en un modo moi ingenioso

917
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,800
mediante

918
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,099
la utilización del concepto

919
00:42:52,099 --> 00:42:52,900
de revolución

920
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:57,199
ao final do Behemoth

921
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,059
ao final do Behemoth

922
00:42:59,059 --> 00:43:01,699
explica

923
00:43:01,699 --> 00:43:05,329
Hobbes

924
00:43:05,329 --> 00:43:07,010
o proceso completo

925
00:43:07,010 --> 00:43:11,210
do derrocamiento

926
00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:12,909
e da restauración

927
00:43:12,909 --> 00:43:15,110
como o ciclo completo

928
00:43:15,110 --> 00:43:16,130
da revolución

929
00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:17,670
ao final do qual

930
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:20,030
se retorna ao punto de partida

931
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:21,489
o termo de revolución

932
00:43:21,489 --> 00:43:25,289
hasta o final do siglo XVIII

933
00:43:25,289 --> 00:43:27,110
o termino revolución

934
00:43:27,110 --> 00:43:29,090
é un termino de origen

935
00:43:29,090 --> 00:43:30,429
astronómico o máis

936
00:43:30,429 --> 00:43:31,869
que astronómico-astrológico

937
00:43:31,869 --> 00:43:35,389
e portanto indica un círculo cerrado

938
00:43:35,389 --> 00:43:38,150
a idea de Hobbes

939
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:39,550
de que

940
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:43,949
a própria deposición do rei

941
00:43:43,949 --> 00:43:45,849
non seja máis que un momento

942
00:43:45,849 --> 00:43:48,590
na realización de un círculo

943
00:43:48,590 --> 00:43:51,349
de algún modo é vista como Hobbes

944
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:54,150
como la manera de mantener

945
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:56,650
la continuidad a pesar del cambio

946
00:43:56,650 --> 00:43:58,730
si un rey

947
00:43:58,730 --> 00:43:59,690
ha sido

948
00:43:59,690 --> 00:44:03,389
decapitado, pero

949
00:44:03,389 --> 00:44:05,730
en el curso

950
00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:07,329
del ciclo en el cual

951
00:44:07,329 --> 00:44:09,510
la monarquía como tal se establece

952
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:13,349
pero que hay algo que sí

953
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:14,769
es un cuestionario

954
00:44:14,769 --> 00:44:17,389
de la caída, del mismo modo que

955
00:44:17,389 --> 00:44:19,510
a gran vez suya, mucho más tarde

956
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:21,849
cuando en 1792

957
00:44:21,849 --> 00:44:25,659
se produzca

958
00:44:25,659 --> 00:44:28,260
se produzca a depredación

959
00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:29,539
de UDS

960
00:44:29,539 --> 00:44:32,420
é un acto teológico

961
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:33,739
é un acto teológico

962
00:44:33,739 --> 00:44:34,559
porque naturalmente

963
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:36,900
o que está recapitulando é a Deus

964
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:41,829
con a diferencia de que aí non se produce

965
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:43,329
a revolución

966
00:44:43,329 --> 00:44:45,570
entende? se intenta producir

967
00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:47,349
pero todos os inventos da restauración

968
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:48,190
retornan