1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Bón día a totón. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Cando pensa quín titol posarle a unha presentación, 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,000 creo que sempre tenimos o dubte de posar un titol sugestivo 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,000 ou posar un titol descriptivo. 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Neste caso, tratándose de un congreso, 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 he preferido un titol descriptivo, 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,000 encara que segue unha mica longa. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,000 A experiencia que vos vou presentar 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 é exactamente iso, 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 unha aplicación de internet ao desenvolupamento 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 de unha produció audiovisual 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 en alumnes de Cuar del Aeso. 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Pero, abans de comenzar a explicarvos a experiencia resumida, 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 voldría facer unha reflexión previa, 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 un parei de pincelades, 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,000 porque, como se dei abans na conferencia inaugural, 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,000 per mol que en el tema de ordenadores e conexións 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 pode ser que hayamos avanzado suficientemente 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 en el tema de la pedagogía asociada, 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 encara temos que, entre todos, reflexionar. 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,000 A mí se me han acudido un parei de pincelades 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,000 e suposo que, a través das preguntas do final, 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 ou dos foros ou do correo, 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 podemos desengranar, 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 a ver se serveis de alguna cosa. 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Primeira reflexión sobre o aprendizaje mesmo, 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,000 se consideramos que o aprendizaje en realidade 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,000 é unha transformación que implica 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 ver a sí mesmo de unha altra manera 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 e ver o mundo de unha altra forma, 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 e tenimos en compte, 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 no meu caso, 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,000 e suposo que moitos de vosaltres 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 que trabalhamos con adolescentes, 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 o uso, o aproximación ao seu mundo, 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 porque, en realidad, 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 o Internet já forma parte do seu mundo, 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 é unha eina de comunicación, 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 unha mica etérea, unha mica cambiante, 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 pero que é moito do seu agrado, 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 iso sabemos todos, 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 e temos de ir, 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 se temos de explicar o mundo, 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,000 temos de transformar 45 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 o punto de vista que temos do mundo, 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 temos de ir ao seu mundo, 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 temos de agafar esta eina 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 e aproximarla, 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 temos de facer este esforzo. 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 A estructura própria do mundo do Internet, 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 baseada no hipertexto, 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 ten unhas características 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 que penso que nos ajudan nesta feina. 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Basicamente, 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 integra tres lenguajes, 56 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 resumidos, visual, textual e sonor. 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Eu vos quero explicar unha experiencia 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 que vix tindre a primeira vez 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 que vix perceber o entorno visual, 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 un vídeo concretamente, 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 a unha clase. 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Vix seleccionar un vídeo de Carl Sagan 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 que fala da evolución, 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 non sei se o conheceu, 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 e que começa nuns cranks do Japón, 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,000 uns samuráis, 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 és unha historia moito bonita 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 para explicar, diguem-me, 69 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 o fondo do que é a teoría da evolución. 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Aquest vídeo é un capítulo da serie Cosmos, 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 dura cincuenta minutos, 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 é o tempo dunha clase. 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Así que vix pasar o vídeo 74 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 e vix pasar o típico, 75 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,000 unha serie de perguntetas 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 para que os alunos comentasen 77 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000 e dónesen a súa opinión 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 sobre o que havían visto 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 e veure que é o que havían tret. 80 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Sobre o crank, 81 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 me van contar meravelles, 82 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 me sabía entusiasmada eu 83 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 dos cranks en cara de samurái 84 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 que conta a Carl Sagan, 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 pero da teoría da evolución, 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 res. 87 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Non havían tret as relaxións, 88 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 havían quedado na parte bonita. 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 José António Marina 90 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 día un momento na segúnda charla 91 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 que hem de treballar o proceso lineal, 92 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 dí a él, literalmente, 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,000 non tenho que ir aquí a apuntar, 94 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 o proceso lineal da atención. 95 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Incluso parlaba da memoria de Jacques Termini. 96 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Ben, en definitiva, 97 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,000 como combinemos os tres lenguaches 98 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 desde un punto de vista educativo? 99 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Pois mireu, 100 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 després da experiencia que vos he contado, 101 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 he visto que a parte visual, 102 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 vos sabén mol ben os publicitaris, 103 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 é mol emocional, 104 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 portanto, é mol útil como motivación. 105 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Pero non se ha de fer durante 50 minutos, 106 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 pelo menos na meua experiencia. 107 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 12 minutos, 108 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 por exemplo, 109 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 10, 15 minutos, 110 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,000 xa va bé. 111 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Porque després hem de pasar 112 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 ao proceso lineal que dí a él, 113 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 á memoria de Jacques Termini, 114 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 hem de anar á parte més textual, 115 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 se ha de treballar alló, 116 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 unha vegada que o tenimos motivado. 117 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Hem de pasar á fase de análise, 118 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 hem de tin de preparar esta segunda fase. 119 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,000 E finalmente, 120 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 aspectos ou non, 121 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,000 fa, 122 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 como todos, 123 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 máis ou menos, 124 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 sabén da nosa propia experiencia, 125 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 fa de unha modulación do ambiente, 126 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 crear un ambiente. 127 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Un compañe, 128 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 en el que venía nel tren, 129 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 me explicaba 130 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,000 que le había impresionado 131 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 unha profesora seu al cap, 132 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,000 cuan estaba facendo el curso 133 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 de actitud pedagógica, 134 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 que cuan parlaba del Imperio Roma, 135 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,000 posaba unha música a dién, 136 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 incluso fea servir un perfún, 137 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 que eixo ya me asustan més. 138 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 A dién era la situación, 139 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 e cuan parlaba de unha altra cuestión histórica, 140 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 unha altra perfún 141 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 e unha altra música. 142 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Yo lo del perfún 143 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 no tin controlado. 144 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Pero bueno, 145 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 lo de fer servir, 146 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 díguenme, 147 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 el llenguache sonó 148 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 como a modulación do ambiente, 149 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 cre que sí que é mol útil. 150 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Bueno, 151 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,000 unha reflexión llegada en eixo 152 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,000 es que precisamente 153 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 cuan parlaban de adolescentes, 154 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,000 e todos sabén 155 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 que en el mundo de la adolescencia 156 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 está un procés de construcción 157 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 de la personalidad propia, 158 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 en vez de todo el medio ambiente 159 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 que le envolta. 160 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Toda unha trama de relacións 161 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 que van configurando 162 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 como aquesta persona 163 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 se va a definir en a sí mateixa. 164 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Dons, 165 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 eixo 166 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 facendo a metáfora 167 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 e agafando a simbología 168 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,000 en o noso traballo 169 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 emprendendo o hipertesto, 170 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 significa 171 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 que os nonos, 172 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 as nonas, 173 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 nono só de analizar 174 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,000 e de mirar, 175 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 han de construir, 176 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 han de fer unha producció propia 177 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 e esta producció propia 178 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 ha de estar enllaçada 179 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 en todo o mundo que le envolta. 180 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 És a dir, 181 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 toda esta xarxa 182 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 de enllaços 183 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 a diferentes puntos 184 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 que amplíen lo que ells pensen, 185 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 que contrasten, 186 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 que permiten criticar, 187 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 que permiten entre tots 188 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 anarse aclarindo, 189 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 és unha cosa que nonomés 190 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 os agrada, 191 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 sino que entra de plé 192 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 en lo que és el seu procés 193 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 de construcción de la personalidade 194 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 dins de la adolescencia. 195 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Per tant, 196 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 yo creo que existeix unha relación directa 197 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 que podemos aprofitar 198 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 en la propia estructura del hipertesto 199 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 como elemento base 200 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 entre internet 201 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 e la propia fase 202 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 de la adolescencia. 203 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Estas eran as douse pinzellades 204 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 que vos volía comentar abans de entrar 205 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 a explicar lo que é en sí 206 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 la experiencia nosa. 207 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Ben, nosaltres hemos feito servir 208 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 unha eña, 209 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,000 el Moodle, 210 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 que ya l'ha comentado el compañe, 211 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 básicamente 212 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 perquè afavoreix a interactividade. 213 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 U simplifica, 214 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 mol ben estructurada 215 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 para poder fer 216 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,000 de unha manera interactiva 217 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 el desenvolupamento de unha clase. 218 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Després, 219 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 con ben el detall, 220 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 voreu de quina manera 221 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 fem servir. 222 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Altre aspecte, 223 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 facilita el seguiment. 224 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Es a dir, 225 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 allí queda reflexar 226 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 tota a participación que se ha fet. 227 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Nonomés es participativa, 228 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 sino que queda tot registrad 229 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 e permete unha relectura, 230 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 unha aprofundiment, 231 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 unha segunda fase, 232 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 porque na primera 233 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 se busca ben ben 234 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 a espontaneidade, 235 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 a participación. 236 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Na segunda, 237 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,000 temos de, entre todos, 238 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 llegar. 239 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Ixo, o Moodle, 240 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 o permite mol ben. 241 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 E, finalmente, 242 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 porque é unha plataforma llibre, 243 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 e eu creo que, 244 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 é claro, 245 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 que o programa de llibre 246 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 se ha de intentar 247 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 aprofitar 248 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 e se ha de intentar 249 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,000 estender o máximo posible 250 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 e máis desde 251 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 un servei público. 252 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Como amitxa 253 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 de comunicación, 254 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 nosotros van triar la radio. 255 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Fer un programa de radio 256 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 era o objetivo 257 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 desta experiencia. 258 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Era un crédito cuadrimestral 259 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 de dous horas á semana. 260 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Acuárdele a iso. 261 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Por que a radio? 262 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Bueno, é un mitxar que trobemos 263 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 que é mol proporcionado. 264 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 É a dir, 265 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 que vull dir en proporcionado? 266 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Les has de explicar a técnica, 267 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 toda a fase técnica del mitxar, 268 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 e les has de explicar 269 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 a parte comunicativa. 270 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Bueno, pues é que 271 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 trobemos nosaltres 272 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 que está prou equilibrado 273 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 en la parte 274 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 que és de dedicar a la técnica, 275 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 tenisa prou temps 276 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 para dedicar tamén a la parte comunicativa. 277 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Ia altres mitxans 278 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 que requerixen 279 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 para o temps de que disposaban 280 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 un crédito cuadrimestral 281 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 de dous horas, 282 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 como vos deia, 283 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 masa esforzo 284 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 a la parte técnica. 285 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Non podemos cuidar tan 286 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 a parte comunicativa. 287 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,000 E é o objetivo fonamental. 288 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Por iso van triar la radio. 289 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Y després, 290 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000 é unha cosa aquí 291 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,000 asequible 292 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 para dir 293 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 que é relativamente fácil 294 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 unha relación 295 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 en unha radio local, 296 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 por exemplo, 297 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 como és en noso caso 298 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 a Uldecona, 299 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000 que é unha radio local, 300 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 non é mol fácil 301 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 fer unha interrelación. 302 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Se os programas 303 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 que se produíxen 304 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 al centro, 305 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 no Instituto de Uldecona, 306 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,000 en aquel caso, 307 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 se poden emeter 308 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 per a radio local, 309 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 incluso poden 310 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 en un futuro 311 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 anar a produírlos 312 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 directamente a la radio, 313 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 poden ver 314 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 el mitxar 315 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 en seu movimento. 316 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Iso é mol máis difícil, 317 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 por exemplo, 318 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 na televisión. 319 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Non é que seja imposible, 320 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 pero é máis difícil. 321 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,000 É máis asequible 322 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 a radio 323 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 en aquel sentido. 324 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Sí. 325 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Iso vol dir 326 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 que queden cinc minutos? 327 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Non. 328 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Entón, 329 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,000 veis rapidet. 330 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 A ver, 331 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 a presentación 332 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 dos diferentes apartados, 333 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 aniré rapid, 334 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 després vos posaré 335 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 unha adresa 336 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 e el que volgui 337 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 podrá entrar 338 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 e verlo en detall. 339 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Vale? 340 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Entón, 341 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 esta serie de pantallas 342 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 para explicarles fases. 343 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Primeiro van decidir 344 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,000 os temas. 345 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Os temas 346 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 que farían 347 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,000 os programas de radio. 348 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Como facemos iso? 349 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 En unha institución 350 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,000 sincial, 351 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 un chat. 352 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Podeu dir 353 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 un chat 354 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 está na clase? 355 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Vos é curios, 356 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 porque 357 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 cuan debatixes 358 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 el tema 359 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 del programa, 360 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,000 diguemme, 361 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 sense fer servir 362 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 el chat, 363 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,000 unha clase normal, 364 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,000 trobes 365 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 dos ou tres opinións 366 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 de la xente 367 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 que é menos tímida 368 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 o que é 369 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 unha mica líder. 370 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 En cambio, 371 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 me garantí 372 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 que participase 373 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 todo. 374 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Vale? 375 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 É curioso 376 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,000 porque després 377 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 o que ellos 378 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 havían dito 379 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 os posemos en la pantalla 380 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 e serveis para 381 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 arribar á conclusión final 382 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 entre todos 383 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 a viva veu. 384 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Pero en esta 385 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 primera fase 386 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 o chat 387 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 nos ajudou 388 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 prou. 389 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Després 390 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 teníamos un fórum 391 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 para ir acabando 392 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 de lligar 393 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 os temas. 394 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Després 395 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 pasamos a fase 396 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 de elaboración 397 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 dos guións literarios. 398 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Ahí tenéis 399 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 detallos de documentos 400 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 para posarse 401 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 al día 402 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 sobre el tema, 403 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 un fórum 404 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 para a comunicación 405 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 interna 406 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 dos grupos 407 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,000 porque fan 408 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 diferentes programas 409 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 de radio 410 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,000 e, sobre todo, 411 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 unha wiki 412 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 que está incorporada 413 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,000 al Moodle 414 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,000 para elaborar 415 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 el guión literario. 416 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Como alló 417 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,000 é algo 418 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 que va en continua evolución, 419 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 la wiki 420 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 é unha eina 421 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 mol útil. 422 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Coloquen la primera idea, 423 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 la van modificando 424 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 entre as aportacións 425 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 de todos 426 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 y la del profesor 427 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,000 e así 428 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 poqueta a poqueta 429 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 el proceso 430 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 de construcción 431 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,000 del guión literario 432 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,000 que é lo que 433 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,000 máis dura, 434 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,000 lo máis costoso 435 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 en tempos. 436 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Després 437 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 pasamos a 438 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 unha vez 439 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 que se ha elaborado 440 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,000 el guión literario 441 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,000 fer 442 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000 lo que vos dije 443 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 abans, 444 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000 motivar 445 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000 el tema 446 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 para os oyentes 447 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 en aquel caso 448 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,000 en unhas pastillas 449 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 de vídeo 450 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 de los que 451 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 estamos 452 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 només 453 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Claudio 454 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 que en aquel caso 455 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,000 venían 456 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,000 del programa 457 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,000 este 458 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,000 que 459 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,000 eran 460 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,000 procesos 461 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 mol puntuals 462 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,000 para introduir 463 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 os temas 464 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 que en aquel caso 465 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,000 eran de 466 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,000 les guerres 467 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 era un dels temas 468 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 e a outra era 469 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 la sexualidad. 470 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Curiosamente 471 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,000 en el debate 472 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,000 se va a conseguir 473 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 lligar 474 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 agresividad, 475 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 sexualidad, 476 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 todo a través 477 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 del tema hormonal 478 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,000 curiosamente 479 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 eis 480 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 o van anar 481 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000 lligando, 482 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,000 o van anar 483 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 debatendo, 484 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 o van anar buscando 485 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,000 e aquí están 486 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 as pastillas 487 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 de vídeo 488 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 y aquí en el guió técnico 489 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 también tenemos una wiki 490 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 y tenemos 491 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 una serie de recursos 492 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 para poder 493 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,000 incorporar elementos 494 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 en el guió técnico. 495 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Voy rápido 496 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 grabaciones 497 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 después ven 498 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 las grabaciones 499 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,000 en directo 500 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000 de los dos programas 501 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 y después 502 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 vamos a corregir 503 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 para que participen 504 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 también de la experiencia 505 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,000 de corrección 506 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 vamos a corregir 507 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,000 los gustosos 508 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 que no han quedado 509 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 malamente 510 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,000 pero después 511 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,000 se editaron. 512 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Esta es la fase 513 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 de edición del son 514 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 y cómo queda 515 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 finalmente 516 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 el programa. 517 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Después 518 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 mientras se está 519 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000 haciendo el programa 520 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 de radio 521 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 para que también 522 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 depenga una mica 523 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 de edición de vídeo 524 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,000 esto se filma 525 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,000 y ellos 526 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 editan el vídeo 527 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 y finalmente 528 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 lo pinchan 529 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 a la salsa 530 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,000 para que pueda 531 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,000 estar en conocimiento 532 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 de todos. 533 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Conclusiones 534 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Bueno 535 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,000 elevada participación 536 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,000 yo había 537 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,000 hecho 538 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,000 este tipo 539 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 de experiencias 540 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,000 sin 541 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 necesidad 542 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000 de 543 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,000 model 544 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,000 de una otra manera 545 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,000 ¿no? 546 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 De una manera 547 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 digamos 548 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 más tradicional 549 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 la participación 550 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,000 ha aumentado 551 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 significativamente 552 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 pero claro 553 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 para hablar 554 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 de participación 555 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 ¿qué tipo 556 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000 de participación? 557 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Pues 558 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 podemos decir 559 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 que es una participación 560 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,000 muy creativa 561 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,000 porque es un mito 562 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,000 que a veces 563 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,000 se estimula mucho 564 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,000 buscar por internet 565 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,000 buscar cosas 566 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 es una participación 567 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,000 prou crítica 568 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,000 porque analiza 569 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,000 los medios 570 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000 de comunicación 571 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,000 y 572 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,000 se queda 573 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 en las versiones 574 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 que más le agrada 575 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,000 y ven buenos problemas 576 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,000 de unos y de otros 577 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,000 y colectiva 578 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 porque estimula 579 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,000 un trabajo 580 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,000 en equipo 581 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 prou considerable 582 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 ¿no? 583 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Así que 584 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,000 estes tres ses 585 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,000 nosotros 586 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,000 consideremos 587 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 que es 588 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 un gran resultado 589 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000 haber aconseguido 590 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,000 encara que siga 591 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,000 escucharles 592 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,000 una miqueta 593 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,000 en el medio 594 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,000 de este sistema 595 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,000 ¿no? 596 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Bueno 597 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000 lo último 598 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,000 que os diré 599 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,000 porque ya estoy 600 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 prácticamente fuera del tempo 601 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,000 es lo que os había dito 602 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,000 antes 603 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 e iso 604 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 como se digo 605 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 aos alumnes 606 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 iso no está 607 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 cá puesto 608 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 si voleu 609 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 copiado 610 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 el que le interese 611 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,000 aquí té 612 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000 la adresa 613 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000 aonde está la experiencia 614 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 ósea 615 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000 allí podeu entrar 616 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,000 he fet un usuario 617 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,000 e unha contraseña 618 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,000 para que 619 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 cualsebol de vosates 620 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,000 pogue entrar 621 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,000 per tant 622 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 podeu ver 623 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000 todo el detalle 624 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 todo iso 625 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 que vos he explicado 626 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 mol resumidamente 627 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,000 allí podeu veixarvos 628 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 les pastilles de vídeo 629 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 vos les programes 630 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 en fin 631 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,000 todo iso 632 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 teniu ahí 633 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,000 á ponencia 634 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000 figura la adresa 635 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,000 pero es la del resultado 636 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 final 637 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 aquí teniu 638 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 el proceso 639 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,000 que cre que 640 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,000 es el més interesante 641 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 porque encara 642 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 os resultados 643 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,000 se andan a pulir 644 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 cuan entreu 645 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,000 a plataforma 646 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000 aquesta Moodle 647 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,000 nha diferentes cursos 648 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,000 porque esta 649 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 é a plataforma 650 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 del centre 651 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,000 éu de triar 652 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,000 el curso 653 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,000 audiovisual 654 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000 2007-2008 655 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 segundo cuadrimestre 656 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 i entrar 657 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 como usuario 658 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,000 congreso 659 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000 vos he posado 660 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,000 ahí la adresa 661 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,000 de correo electrónico 662 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,000 per si voleu 663 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 adesarvos 664 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 fer algún comentario 665 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000 o que vulguem 666 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 iso é todo 667 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,000 por moi parte 668 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,000 moitas gracias 669 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,000 pola vosa atención 670 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,000 aplausos 671 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 aplausos 672 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000 aplausos 673 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,000 aplausos 674 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000 aplausos 675 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,000 aplausos 676 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,000 aplausos 677 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,000 aplausos 678 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,000 aplausos 679 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 aplausos 680 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 aplausos 681 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,000 aplausos 682 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 aplausos 683 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 aplausos 684 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,000 aplausos 685 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,000 aplausos 686 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,000 aplausos 687 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 aplausos