1 00:00:02,609 --> 00:00:38,920 hello everyone welcome back to episode two of radio cortez the english podcast uh my name's 2 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:44,820 will sheer and i'm joining the booth here today with carol rodriguez yeah hello welcome 3 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:55,820 uh we're back for week two and um we have a holiday coming up next week um not celebrated 4 00:00:55,820 --> 00:01:05,079 here in spain sadly um but in the u.s and canada next week on thursday well by the time this comes 5 00:01:05,079 --> 00:01:14,400 out it'll either be today or tomorrow for you yeah hopefully we'll see um but yeah thanksgiving 6 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:22,079 um sadly we're here in spain no well not sadly but sadly because we're missing out yeah we're 7 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:29,900 missing out on you know our family our friends some mashed potatoes some turkey some gravy 8 00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:35,920 um but yeah what what's your favorite part about thanksgiving carol i mean i think it would be kind 9 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:43,540 of rude to say the food because for us as puerto ricans we're a lot of um we enjoy some of the 10 00:01:43,540 --> 00:01:49,840 celebrations a lot so we try to just use the time to get together and have the whole big meeting 11 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,159 with all the family and going to not only one family but like multiple groups of families so 12 00:01:55,159 --> 00:02:00,760 like my mom's family my dad's family and then you keep going you keep going from from place to place 13 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:07,500 and eating a big plate of everything as you should as yeah as you should and we have we have we do 14 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:14,539 try to serve turkey but most of the time it's like a what is it not pig what is it called pig 15 00:02:14,539 --> 00:02:23,539 on a stick pig on a stick it's like um it's like a barbecue basically like a kebab situation no 16 00:02:23,539 --> 00:02:29,780 more of like they put the pig on a oh oh oh like a rotisserie yeah yeah rotisserie situation yeah 17 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:36,479 yeah so they they spin the pig that's cooler than turkey yeah it tastes a lot better yeah turkey is 18 00:02:36,479 --> 00:02:43,139 awful i will say um yeah just so all of you know you are not missing out on a little dry turkey 19 00:02:43,139 --> 00:02:49,659 on thanksgiving i mean at least for my family white people are known for having awful awful 20 00:02:49,659 --> 00:02:56,020 turkey and if my mom ever heard this she would cry but she won't so my turkey is always dry as 21 00:02:56,020 --> 00:03:04,300 the desert and i usually take the red pieces of meat like the leg or the wing because they tend 22 00:03:04,300 --> 00:03:10,159 to hold the moisture a little bit more but a little bit juicy turkey breast is like eating 23 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:16,919 tan bark like wood chips yeah it is like cardboard yeah it's really dry yeah so we don't i don't miss 24 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:22,460 out on no turkey but we have like a lot of side dishes nice we have like uh potato salad yum and 25 00:03:22,460 --> 00:03:27,699 we have like uh pasta salad which is not pasta salad but that's how that's the closest thing 26 00:03:27,699 --> 00:03:32,939 that i can describe it in english yeah um and we have the best desserts ever like what we have like 27 00:03:32,939 --> 00:03:38,520 flan okay we make pumpkin flan whoa yeah and we make like coconut flan which is the one of the 28 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,460 basics and a whole bunch of other things that i just like everybody makes something really well 29 00:03:43,460 --> 00:03:48,060 so when you go to each house there's like some something that you look forward to a signature 30 00:03:48,060 --> 00:03:53,919 dish yeah yeah yeah okay that's cool how you guys kind of have your own like spin on it i like that 31 00:03:53,919 --> 00:04:01,819 because like the food i mean it's nice to have all the things that you always have because it 32 00:04:01,819 --> 00:04:06,919 kind of makes you reminisce of your childhood and all the other thanksgivings you had but 33 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:14,520 if for the meal we had pasta i think i'd be like happier than having turkey you know my family also 34 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,779 sometimes does this thing where like they get tired of turkey so we're like okay we're gonna 35 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:22,240 make pasta this year we're gonna make sushi this year it's just like so we all get have the activity 36 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,879 together because we all like cooking together a lot i don't like cooking but i like cooking with 37 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:31,620 my mom and my sister so that's something really fun i think aside from the food it's the fact that 38 00:04:31,620 --> 00:04:36,860 we all are able to get together we have the days off for the most part so we just go either sometimes 39 00:04:36,860 --> 00:04:42,199 they also like you buy food from a supermarket instead of like you making it yourself okay you 40 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:47,379 buy like a whole like oh like pre-made yeah like a kind of a buffet kind of thing yeah and that way 41 00:04:47,379 --> 00:04:51,220 we always have a lot more time of just like chatting with each other and catching up nice 42 00:04:51,220 --> 00:04:57,720 yeah yeah that's better i mean there's my mom's always so stressed out cooking on the day of i 43 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,259 mean i help her it's not just my mom of course but she's though she's like she organizes everything 44 00:05:02,259 --> 00:05:06,800 and she has to set everything up and plan it's really it's like stressful she just spins around 45 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:12,879 the kitchen just runs around the kitchen in circles over and over until the meal is served 46 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:18,019 and then we we yell at her to sit down yeah yeah my mom used to do that she was like i'm not gonna 47 00:05:18,019 --> 00:05:22,680 do this anymore i'm gonna spend money on it and we're gonna eat some good food it's still gonna 48 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,800 be good but we're i'm just not gonna make it i don't want to do that anymore um i mean you have 49 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,600 to get up at like 7 a.m to start the turkey and everything else i mean you can kind of 50 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,480 you can kind of have other people bring the sides which is nice you can have someone bring 51 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,939 mashed potatoes someone bring gravy someone bring stuffing and then the house that hosts 52 00:05:42,939 --> 00:05:48,120 usually makes the big yeah yeah that's what we usually do as well yeah so like nobody has to 53 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,519 do everything we all just like are in charge of bringing our own signature dish um so we kind of 54 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:56,560 when we go to our house we're like oh we have a little bit of this we have a little bit of this 55 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:05,779 speaking of that my my grandma one year so she always makes her famous pumpkin pie we wait all 56 00:06:05,779 --> 00:06:15,720 year for it of course um she makes it uh in a very special pie dish that was her mom's pie dish 57 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:26,480 so my great-grandmother um we called her gg for great-grandma oh that's so cute yeah and um 58 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:34,079 so one year we were hosting thanksgiving at my house and my grandma and grandpa got there my dad 59 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:39,439 was like will go outside help them with whatever they have to bring in um so i go out 60 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:47,779 my grandma emmy hands me the pumpkin pie and is like okay bring this in and i'm like okay great 61 00:06:47,779 --> 00:06:53,699 blah blah blah how are you good to see you i missed you um you know and we're walking up 62 00:06:53,699 --> 00:07:04,459 the stairs to my front door and i tripped with the pie in my hand and fell straight down onto 63 00:07:04,459 --> 00:07:12,639 my face onto the brick on my front porch and the pie dish went flying as well onto the brick on my 64 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:21,500 front porch and it shattered into a million pieces yeah this fairly family heirloom of a pie 65 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:28,839 dish i shattered on the ground in front of my whole family as well so like my grandma was 66 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:36,879 so sad and my mom was so sad and they were trying not to be upset with me because it was 67 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:42,800 thanksgiving but at the same time like i just destroyed this historical artifact of my family 68 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:48,279 but it was an accident of course it wasn't your fault yeah i mean but of course like i 69 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:55,959 feel bad of course that happened to me on thanksgiving day who else um but yeah there's 70 00:07:55,959 --> 00:08:02,019 there's always you know some drama at thanksgiving yeah i think thanksgiving is a place for drama 71 00:08:02,019 --> 00:08:07,019 like it just happens because everybody's together yeah so then everybody who sometimes doesn't get 72 00:08:07,019 --> 00:08:14,360 along or something like there's always something going on but like i think we try to not let it 73 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,579 overshadow the whole like experience of being together yeah um do you have any really weird 74 00:08:19,579 --> 00:08:26,160 dishes that you eat for thanksgiving like there's okay i have strong feelings about this okay we 75 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,740 have potato salad yeah which is we like made a certain way obviously everybody makes it their 76 00:08:30,740 --> 00:08:37,200 own way but mainly it's just potatoes mayonnaise and like some other veggies maybe like bell 77 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:44,320 peppers or whatever and some people make it with apple in it like with chunks of little apples in 78 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:51,820 sorry i just gagged yeah absolutely hate every time somebody brought a potato salad with apple 79 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:57,299 in and we were like because you don't you can't even tell mayo apple and mayo and potato and like 80 00:08:57,299 --> 00:09:02,379 you would look at it you can't tell the difference you can't see what an apple is it's the same white 81 00:09:02,379 --> 00:09:09,940 as a potato it's a hidden so you would like eat it and we're like no out of nowhere it's so hateful 82 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:13,919 and then sometimes they would put olives in it which i understand it adds a flavor 83 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:19,019 but with the apple no no without the apple okay like take away the apple add olives okay 84 00:09:19,019 --> 00:09:24,860 taste it okay but like take out i'm an olive hater i try olives especially being in spain 85 00:09:24,860 --> 00:09:29,879 i try olives all the time you have to have olives i know and i try them but i still don't like them 86 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:34,779 i still try every single time okay good good that you're trying at least i know but not in my potato 87 00:09:34,779 --> 00:09:40,279 salad not with mayo keep it separate like if you eat a whole bite of olive with a potato and mayo 88 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:45,080 in your mouth it's just like like an awful experience jarring probably very jarring yeah 89 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:54,019 yeah that's not as bad as mine our weird our weird dish is weird so i don't know where it came from 90 00:09:54,019 --> 00:10:01,519 my grandma has always done this but she makes you have potato salad we have jello salad what 91 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:09,460 my face just dropped so i've actually made it with her because it's kind of like a joke for me 92 00:10:09,460 --> 00:10:17,000 like growing up we've always had to eat this and we all like really don't like it so you're just 93 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,899 trying to make her feel well yeah she spends a lot of time on it every year and it comes okay 94 00:10:22,899 --> 00:10:29,460 so we have we do we do four courses on thanksgiving no big deal that's a lot but okay before you go 95 00:10:29,460 --> 00:10:37,740 saying that the first course is jello salad so what it is is everyone is served on a plate 96 00:10:37,740 --> 00:10:46,940 on top of iceberg lettuce they get like a cube of oh man prepare yourself for this 97 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:52,500 it's green jello on the bottom and then in the middle it's 98 00:10:52,500 --> 00:11:03,759 it's it's cream cheese mayo and pineapple chunks in the middle and then on top is a layer of red 99 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:09,539 jello and it's served and it's served on top of iceberg lettuce oh my god okay so just so you 100 00:11:09,539 --> 00:11:14,879 know green jello is what green apple or lemon or lime i think it's lime i think it's lime and then 101 00:11:14,879 --> 00:11:21,600 red jello is cherry flavored yes yes so we're talking about ew we're talking about lime 102 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,460 cream cheese and mayo cream cheese mayo pineapple don't forget about the pineapple sorry pineapple 103 00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:32,320 chunks like the ones in the can that they put on top of pizza yeah yeah listen listen okay this 104 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:40,059 would be great separate but on top of us a green like a salad yeah like a big chunk or just like 105 00:11:40,059 --> 00:11:45,539 cut up it's like a square the size of like your fist how do you eat that with a spoon yeah you 106 00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:53,980 eat it with the spoon and my dad loves it so like either we always take a bite and we're like 107 00:11:53,980 --> 00:12:03,620 i mean this is so good and we're just like about to throw up um and then we either pass it under 108 00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:12,159 the table to my dog my dad oh he really likes it i don't know how my grandma hasn't noticed that he 109 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:18,399 eats like five every year but he really likes it or yeah we give it to the dog as well but you have 110 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:25,139 to be sneaky about giving it to the dog oh my god that's i i'm and i made it with her once actually 111 00:12:25,139 --> 00:12:30,700 it took it took a really long time and what i really didn't enjoy about making it with her was 112 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:38,799 i didn't know this but there's also mayo there's mayonnaise in the jello as well oh my god only for 113 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:44,100 aesthetic purposes just to make it matte like it's not for taste at all they just want it to be like 114 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:52,259 it's the same shade yeah yeah so it's not shiny matte shiny matte okay yeah because that's gonna 115 00:12:52,259 --> 00:12:57,659 affect the aesthetic i know for real it's gonna make it so much better no way yeah but i made it 116 00:12:57,659 --> 00:13:02,580 for my friends for friendsgiving and they were all absolutely appalled but i made them i made 117 00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:05,919 them try it by the way of course just so they know yeah what you have to live what i have to 118 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:12,379 go through every year that's insane i mean thinking about i can't believe the the experience 119 00:13:12,379 --> 00:13:17,759 of thanksgiving evolved from like the history of it which is like trying to come together yeah 120 00:13:17,759 --> 00:13:25,100 as a nation i mean i could yes you you probably don't know the the intricacies of it i mean no i 121 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:30,320 don't what i got taught is that it was just two groups of people the pilgrims yeah and the native 122 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,679 americans which they don't call native americans they call indians at that point yes but they are 123 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:41,580 called native americans yeah and they made this big dinner to try and like and put their differences 124 00:13:41,580 --> 00:13:47,120 aside yeah and have that dinner but that's also i have recognized that's not true because yeah 125 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:53,700 that's a story that's like a fun tall tale that we were told as kids yeah to blind us from what 126 00:13:53,700 --> 00:14:03,580 really happened so pilgrims pilgrims are is a fun word for colonizers pretty much the pilgrims came 127 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:12,759 from uh england um they didn't like what was going on there so they looked for a new place to go 128 00:14:12,759 --> 00:14:23,460 they found america and i think they left england to set sail for the u.s in um like 129 00:14:23,460 --> 00:14:33,460 what was it like 1500s i mean i was thinking more like seasons wise so they left in the 130 00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:42,759 fall so like october they left yeah so they arrived in the u.s in like november is when 131 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:49,019 they dropped in the the east coast the northeast of the united states like massachusetts 132 00:14:49,019 --> 00:14:59,860 new york somewhere around there i don't know yeah um but so the sale was over like 133 00:14:59,860 --> 00:15:08,000 october november time so that was already a really bad time to set sail for the u.s so 134 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:16,679 two people died on the trip over okay um i think the mayflower is the name of the boat that they 135 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:23,679 took yeah i know that one it took like 140 people and two people died on the way there 136 00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:27,559 okay but two babies were born on the way there as well oh so we're even yeah 137 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:36,320 we're even right now but they get to the northeast finally they land at like plymouth rock or 138 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:42,460 whatever it was and they get there and it's literally like the dead of winter and they're 139 00:15:42,460 --> 00:15:48,200 and they're trying to move into this new place they're trying to build houses crops established 140 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:56,240 yeah like grow stuff hunt there's no food to hunt like everything is laying low for winter 141 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:03,980 yeah so like half of them died in that first winter and they were a little bit dumb yeah 142 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:08,100 and came in the wrong not not the right season to come i don't know if they weren't aware of 143 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:14,759 the seasons in the u.s but it's on the same hemisphere yeah um they were probably just a 144 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:19,179 bit confused i don't know or they didn't think it over well enough but they got there half of them 145 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:30,100 died and um they were in pretty bad sorts so what they told us in school when i was six seven years 146 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:39,659 old is that um they like were begging for help from the native americans of the wampanoag tribe 147 00:16:39,659 --> 00:16:45,759 yeah is the name of their tribe and the leader of that tribe his name was squanto and the story 148 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:53,820 goes that the pilgrims the colonizers were starving dying so they asked the native people 149 00:16:53,820 --> 00:17:01,559 for help and the native people showed them how to plant crops what plants or what crops to plant 150 00:17:01,559 --> 00:17:12,279 when to harvest them blah blah blah and as a token of like their thanks for this help 151 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:20,000 the pilgrims hosted the native americans to this like big dinner big feast where they ate together 152 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:26,900 and kind of i mean the native americans and the pilgrims didn't get along very well back then 153 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:33,940 yeah the white people were scared of like these people with different colored skin and different 154 00:17:33,940 --> 00:17:41,339 cultures than them so they often fought um but this was a case of them coming together 155 00:17:41,339 --> 00:17:46,299 settling their differences and sitting down for a nice meal making peace for a little bit yeah 156 00:17:46,299 --> 00:17:54,220 that's how they told us in school and in school when i was little we would have half of the class 157 00:17:54,220 --> 00:17:59,859 dress up as pilgrims and half of the class oh my god yeah dress up and i know that's not very 158 00:17:59,859 --> 00:18:06,000 controversial in this country but it's so controversial now yeah looking back yeah because 159 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,759 you're impersonating or trying to like take over somebody's culture that has nothing to do with 160 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:17,240 your or your coaches like you're making fun of them yeah i think does atletico madrid do that 161 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:23,140 too like dress up is i know there's one football team that wears some like native american head 162 00:18:23,140 --> 00:18:29,299 dresses in spain which you know it's yeah it's not okay by our standards here it's different but 163 00:18:29,299 --> 00:18:35,140 when i was little they had us make feather headdresses and wear them and like run around 164 00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:39,960 school like making noises with our mouth like the native americans used to which is insane 165 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:47,440 very very bad but they told us this story back then later on in high school we would learn 166 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:56,400 that what really happened is the pilgrims took the native americans as slaves and they did this by 167 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:03,380 introducing new diseases to them on purpose like being like here here's a blanket i know it's cold 168 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:07,420 take this blanket and it would be covered in like measles or smallpox or something 169 00:19:07,420 --> 00:19:13,220 uh-huh yeah and they would give that to the tribe and then the whole tribe or a lot of them would 170 00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:18,720 die from these diseases oh my god that they would deliberately put on them um and then it weakened 171 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:27,240 them and then finally the pilgrims were able to pretty much force the native americans to plant 172 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:33,140 the crops for them and to do all this work for yeah they enslaved them yeah yeah oh my god i 173 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:40,640 didn't know the story so i mean you could think about it in i mean you could think about it in 174 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:46,700 either way but let's try and we try to wreck in the u.s now we try to recognize that you know 175 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:51,599 it's not it's not a great thing that we're celebrating it's not a good thing to be honest 176 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:57,740 that we're celebrating but we try to move away from that being the point of thanksgiving to more 177 00:19:57,740 --> 00:20:02,819 of thanksgiving is about being with your family and being grateful for what you have yeah yeah 178 00:20:02,819 --> 00:20:08,920 because it's been centuries or like at least a couple hundred years yeah and we've developed 179 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,480 traditions around it and we have developed the tradition of giving thanks on the day of 180 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,259 thanksgiving so it is still a tradition that we have and like a practice that we have that is 181 00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:25,500 fairly good yeah it's just that after years of ignoring the negative or the actual origin of 182 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:31,559 the story that it's good to now think back on it recognize it as something that was not a fun 183 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:37,900 experience rather a very bad like basically a genocide um but then the practice that we have 184 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:43,039 created from then we can still use as something like okay we appreciate what has been happening 185 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:47,940 now and with our family etc it's trying to make something good out of something 186 00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:56,900 not great yeah but we still recognize what happened back then now um and we know that 187 00:20:56,900 --> 00:21:01,200 we weren't great in that situation i say we because that was probably my ancestors that 188 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,359 yeah yeah i mean they might be mine but mine are more spanish than than yours would be okay yeah 189 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:13,359 um i mean the spanish are not very uh the spanish colonizers are not like free of of guilt definitely 190 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,819 not no um but the way that we have always seen thanksgiving like we have this short explanation 191 00:21:18,819 --> 00:21:25,640 of of thanksgiving which is apparently wrong like i and after when i was growing up we were taught 192 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,480 yeah pilgrims and indians whatever and then we continued to be to celebrate our culture yeah 193 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:37,460 Which is a mix of African, Spanish, and Indian, and Native American to us. 194 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:37,680 Yeah. 195 00:21:38,740 --> 00:21:41,579 Of which we have no Native Americans anymore. 196 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,279 They were, yeah, that was a complete genocide by the Spanish colonizers. 197 00:21:46,279 --> 00:21:51,519 But what we do to counteract that nowadays, especially during Thanksgiving, 198 00:21:51,839 --> 00:21:56,519 and during this month in general, because this month, I think the 18th of November for us, 199 00:21:56,579 --> 00:21:59,900 is the celebration of race in our country. 200 00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:00,279 Cool. 201 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:06,960 so we celebrate our our african um roots our spanish roots and our native american roots 202 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:13,839 nice um and then we have because we have very um cultural very traditional dances and uh like 203 00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:18,819 practices like that so we all dress up like jibaritas or jibaritos which are like people 204 00:22:18,819 --> 00:22:26,819 from the from the like not the forest but like um we call them they're campesinos they're like 205 00:22:26,819 --> 00:22:33,079 from the pueblos and the small villages that were around and we have our dances we i remember when 206 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:39,299 i was growing up um my grandma made me a costume for one of these events and they have really big 207 00:22:39,299 --> 00:22:46,160 white skirts and like um off the shoulder shirts that are also white uh and then she made mine 208 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,799 into the puerto rican flag so the top was a was blue and white and then the bottom was red and 209 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:56,519 white that's sick it was so cool i still remember i was like in kindergarten nice um and i remember 210 00:22:56,519 --> 00:23:00,900 we were making our dance we were dancing with our skirts and like waving them around to the music 211 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:08,880 and so i for me like thanksgiving is more of a cultural celebration yeah uh of the actual history 212 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:14,839 that they have provided to us as opposed to like the yeah the tech the fake textbook history that 213 00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:20,140 we were yeah exactly so i feel like throughout time like we eventually give them a better 214 00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:25,759 definition but it's also good to recognize because later on i did get taught that our 215 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:27,559 my Native American people were 216 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:29,859 murdered, right? It was a 217 00:23:29,859 --> 00:23:31,819 mass genocide, and then we were all enslaved 218 00:23:31,819 --> 00:23:32,640 and blah, blah, blah. 219 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:35,839 That's all part of my 220 00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:37,359 culture, and 221 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,940 for us, we don't have 222 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:41,460 separation of white people 223 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:43,859 and the rest 224 00:23:43,859 --> 00:23:45,839 of them, because to an extent 225 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:47,599 we have a little bit of blood of everybody 226 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:49,799 in that sense, in terms of the 227 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:50,160 race. 228 00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:53,400 Which is not to say that I'm not white. 229 00:23:53,779 --> 00:23:55,579 It's more of the culture that we 230 00:23:55,579 --> 00:24:00,380 celebrate the things that we the habits and the traditions that we have we try to share to a big 231 00:24:00,380 --> 00:24:07,519 degree yeah um so i think that's what thanksgiving has become for us it's an excuse for us to like 232 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:13,900 make the food that we have passed down through generations and to celebrate and practice the 233 00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:18,660 the habits and the traditions that we have had throughout all of our lives yeah i wish i could 234 00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:24,619 still be at the kids table i know they're so fun the kids table there's nothing like it it's 235 00:24:24,619 --> 00:24:30,799 they have the best desserts they're doing like drawings yeah we're watching tv at the same time 236 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:34,880 yeah yeah yeah listening to music they're like this is the new song that i have yeah 237 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:42,400 yeah that's a good song always miss the kids table i think once my cousins and sisters start 238 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,900 having kids i'll go back to the kids table and sit with them yeah for sure for sure yeah yeah 239 00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:52,019 i'll be that uncle yeah because we can't be like we're not we can't be infiltrating strange kids 240 00:24:52,019 --> 00:24:56,920 you know what i mean like yeah this is like a friend's friend's kid i was like i'm not necessarily 241 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,779 gonna be at that friend's table no no no but if it's my cousin i was like come on now yeah for 242 00:25:01,779 --> 00:25:07,400 sure like i'm the aunt that's in spain that comes back once in a while we're that we're that aunt 243 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,960 and uncle yeah yeah that's so fun which by the way maybe you should get your your mom and your 244 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,960 grandma a new like pie dish over here you know what like a ceramic one yeah yeah that's a good 245 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:25,180 idea maybe get it out of the raster or something yeah maybe my peace offering yeah if it ever makes 246 00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:30,880 it back on delta airlines or whatever i fly you can put on your backpack but it's gonna weigh it 247 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:37,259 down yeah anyway i think it's an option anyways yeah um anything else to add about thanksgiving 248 00:25:37,259 --> 00:25:44,160 um i mean aside from it's it's a fun time yeah it's a good time i wish i wish you all could 249 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:51,700 experience it i mean if you ever have the chance if you ever have a friend that's celebrates it 250 00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:56,740 and they invite you please take the opportunity yeah it's so worth it it's so worth it if anything 251 00:25:56,740 --> 00:26:00,920 and just just the way that thanksgiving work you get a plate and you get a little bit of everything 252 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,059 and so you try a little bit of everything if you don't like it then that's fine you give it to the 253 00:26:04,059 --> 00:26:09,900 dog or you hide it or tell your friend then they'll probably eat it and the next we almost 254 00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:15,140 forgot about the best part the next day the thanksgiving sandwiches yeah thanksgiving 255 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:19,099 leftovers are the best thing ever because sometimes you have to be careful you're like 256 00:26:19,099 --> 00:26:22,559 no everybody needs to eat you can't take everything but when you have those tank 257 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:27,140 thanksgiving leftovers the next day i'm i'm the type to like take them out of the fridge and be 258 00:26:27,140 --> 00:26:31,859 like not even heat it up do you make a sandwich have you ever made the sandwich i don't think 259 00:26:31,859 --> 00:26:39,960 ever made the sandwich okay sourdough or like white bread yeah turkey mashed potatoes stuffing 260 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:47,720 yeah gravy and cranberry sauce on a sandwich dang that's good it's so good i don't i don't like 261 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:54,799 the cranberry sauce okay but i oh my mom made stuffing obviously not inside the turkey because 262 00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:59,319 inside the turkey it's not the best stuffing it has to be outside really yeah because then it 263 00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:02,940 it doesn't dry up and it doesn't dry up the turkey i'm usually an inside the turkey guy 264 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:08,500 for a little bit of context for you guys the stuffing is called stuffing because you actually 265 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:12,619 stuff the turkey with like bread and seasoning but you can also make it outside of the turkey 266 00:27:12,619 --> 00:27:16,440 just like in a pan they have something like that here it's called migas oh it's made out of bread 267 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,400 i don't know what else they add oh yeah they were telling me about that yeah yeah but stuffing is 268 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,720 bitter outside of the turkey you would say yeah yeah yeah okay um it gets a little crispier 269 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:35,339 outside of the turkey inside the turkey it's always like damp yeah you're right um i was gonna 270 00:27:35,339 --> 00:27:41,980 say something else oh we're gonna have thanksgiving this year aren't we what do you mean like a meal 271 00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:48,480 yeah are we are we that would be cool i'm asking we could we could that would be like a friends 272 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,000 giving situation yeah yeah yeah but we definitely are this is something that we can talk about later 273 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,180 we're gonna have three kings oh yeah i'm putting you on the spot oh i need a roscon 274 00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:07,500 we don't get that in pr in puerto rico but uh i'm planning on having um because we'll live 275 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:13,740 with his roommates and i think we should give them a three kings day right because i've never 276 00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:20,299 had them yeah so i think i'm going to do my thing which is to bring like the food for the camels 277 00:28:20,299 --> 00:28:22,420 and to bring out the gifts and stuff. 278 00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:25,920 So that's something that we can look forward to 279 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,980 in our next podcast that we can talk about. 280 00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:29,539 We could do like a gift swap. 281 00:28:29,740 --> 00:28:30,480 That'd be great. 282 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:30,700 Yeah. 283 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,539 But I can put, 284 00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:32,819 because I don't know how, 285 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,799 I need to research how they do it here, honestly, 286 00:28:34,940 --> 00:28:37,240 because back home we do it like Christmas a little bit 287 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,859 in terms of like we put them under the tree 288 00:28:38,859 --> 00:28:39,700 and then everybody wakes up. 289 00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:41,779 But we also have to feed the camels 290 00:28:41,779 --> 00:28:43,920 and like give them grass and everything. 291 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,660 So that's something we can look forward to 292 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:46,920 in one of our next podcasts. 293 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,480 Cool, yeah. 294 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:47,839 Yeah. 295 00:28:48,019 --> 00:28:48,400 All right. 296 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Well, thanks for coming in. 297 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,460 and we'll talk to you guys soon, next week. 298 00:28:53,579 --> 00:28:54,400 Yeah, thanks for watching.