1 00:00:00,090 --> 00:00:06,490 Could you tell me your name please? My name is Luca Frassinetti. Luca, I'd like 2 00:00:06,490 --> 00:00:13,849 you to speak on your own for about one minute and a half. What are your personal 3 00:00:13,849 --> 00:00:23,570 and career ambitions? I work at the moment I'm working in for a publisher 4 00:00:23,570 --> 00:00:34,130 called Donny Kindersley I am a production editor and well I'm aimed to develop my 5 00:00:34,130 --> 00:00:44,390 career within the same field possibly moving up to managerial a managerial 6 00:00:44,390 --> 00:00:51,090 position within the production editorial team that's your career ambitions what 7 00:00:51,090 --> 00:01:01,590 about your personal ambitions personal well I'm planning I attended a HND course eight years ago 8 00:01:01,590 --> 00:01:11,790 I'm planning to develop my studies further and take a BA so I think that's probably the most 9 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:18,629 important ambition at the moment is I increase my knowledge within the field of publishing and can 10 00:01:18,629 --> 00:01:23,150 When you remember back to when you were younger, have your ambitions changed since you were 11 00:01:23,150 --> 00:01:25,150 a child? 12 00:01:25,150 --> 00:01:28,709 Yeah, quite a lot. 13 00:01:28,709 --> 00:01:38,510 When I was a child I wanted to be a florist, so obviously it went quite far away from that. 14 00:01:38,510 --> 00:01:41,689 Tell me why you wanted to be a florist. 15 00:01:41,689 --> 00:01:49,900 I don't know, probably because when I was a kid I just, I think maybe you don't have 16 00:01:49,900 --> 00:01:57,079 the same view of the world that you develop when you get a bit older. 17 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:04,560 And so obviously being a florist seemed something quite exciting and artistic. 18 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Now we're going to discuss something together. 19 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:16,439 The question is, is it more important for society to have scientists than artists? 20 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:20,210 What do you think? 21 00:02:20,210 --> 00:02:30,530 I think that it's very important to have scientists and probably I would give more input in, more 22 00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:37,889 funding into science than art, but I also think that artists are very important for 23 00:02:37,889 --> 00:02:43,949 the development personal development of people so obviously I wouldn't give I 24 00:02:43,949 --> 00:02:50,490 wouldn't stress the importance of I want you to be decisive here so I know the 25 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:57,870 other yeah I believe science is more important than art for the progress of a 26 00:02:57,870 --> 00:03:03,490 society but artists reflect the world and help people understand and interpret 27 00:03:03,490 --> 00:03:10,689 the world so doesn't that make them more important it might but without science 28 00:03:10,689 --> 00:03:15,729 there would be no progress and it would be I think the society would not be able 29 00:03:15,729 --> 00:03:21,389 to focus on other things such as art but you mentioned progress but but life will 30 00:03:21,389 --> 00:03:27,250 be boring with scientific progress we need painting sculpture and theater 31 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:35,930 science can be an artist can be creative we've seen latest development of cells 32 00:03:35,930 --> 00:03:42,770 made in laboratory we've seen you know that the sheep clones completed can it 33 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:47,030 has an element of creativity in it they're just copying nature they're not 34 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:52,590 they're not designing them themselves they're not copying nature because 35 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:58,210 nature, because nature wouldn't produce a clone for instance, so obviously it's something 36 00:03:58,210 --> 00:04:00,229 different, it's created within itself. 37 00:04:00,750 --> 00:04:07,729 Thank you very much. Now here are two pictures showing teenagers. These pictures are being 38 00:04:07,729 --> 00:04:14,509 considered for a book about teenage identity. Please talk about the pictures and say how 39 00:04:14,509 --> 00:04:20,189 the way the young people are dressed shows what they want to say about themselves. 40 00:04:22,589 --> 00:04:32,629 Well, the top one, there's two girls, they've got very flamboyant dresses and hairdos. 41 00:04:33,829 --> 00:04:44,490 And the bottom one, there's a guy, well, a boy wearing some quite ordinary teenage clothing. 42 00:04:44,490 --> 00:04:53,490 I think teenagers, they try to either identify themselves within a certain society and within 43 00:04:53,490 --> 00:05:01,209 a certain way of thinking, or they actually go the other way and they try to detach themselves 44 00:05:01,209 --> 00:05:07,629 from the dominating culture and expressing themselves in a very different way to express 45 00:05:07,629 --> 00:05:13,370 their non-belonging to the culture where they live in. 46 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:21,189 And so the top one is where they want to express themselves outside the dominating culture. 47 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:26,149 And probably the bottom one is the one that is more conforming themselves. 48 00:05:26,149 --> 00:05:33,850 So which one of these pictures would you choose for the book about teenage identity and why? 49 00:05:33,850 --> 00:05:42,810 I mean I would say that both are just as good because if I think back on my teenage, I mean 50 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:50,050 I had elements of my personality where I wanted to be part of the society, and elements where 51 00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:55,949 I wanted to be outside it, express myself, and where I disagreed with everything that 52 00:05:55,949 --> 00:05:57,490 was going on. 53 00:05:57,490 --> 00:06:01,750 And so obviously I think it would be wrong to choose either one or the other. 54 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:03,829 Okay, thank you very much. 55 00:06:03,829 --> 00:06:06,430 Please turn that over. 56 00:06:06,430 --> 00:06:15,029 And here's a situation which describes a role play. 57 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:20,310 Please read the situation to yourself. 58 00:06:20,310 --> 00:06:26,269 So I am a guest at the party and I think you are a famous actor. 59 00:06:26,269 --> 00:06:34,029 So I start, excuse me, could I have your autograph please? 60 00:06:34,029 --> 00:06:35,029 Why would you want that? 61 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:38,069 But you're a famous person. 62 00:06:38,069 --> 00:06:45,370 Russell Crowe. I really loved your last film. I think you must be wrong. I'm sorry, but 63 00:06:45,370 --> 00:06:52,949 I'm not a famous actor. But you look just like him. I might, but I'm afraid that I'm 64 00:06:52,949 --> 00:06:59,810 not. Don't be shy. I won't tell anybody else. I'm sure you must be Russell Crowe. You must 65 00:06:59,810 --> 00:07:05,670 believe me. I'm not Russell Crowe. I know it's difficult that you don't want people 66 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:10,029 to recognise you, but I'm sorry, I have recognised you. I can't pretend that you aren't Russell 67 00:07:10,029 --> 00:07:18,750 Crowe because you are. I'm really sorry, but I think you're mistaken. I'm not. Do you have 68 00:07:18,750 --> 00:07:23,329 a lot of trouble with people thinking you're Russell Crowe? It's never happened before, 69 00:07:23,629 --> 00:07:29,750 so obviously I think you need an eye test. It's not Russell Crowe, it's Richard Burton. 70 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:37,750 you're richard burton and isn't it dead oh yes so it is sorry um no i don't mean richard but 71 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:44,389 i mean richard bacon which is big i have no idea who that is he's a famous actor as well 72 00:07:45,029 --> 00:07:53,430 it's not me but are you sure i mean what do you do are you a writer an actor i work in an office 73 00:07:53,430 --> 00:08:00,430 So now I have no intent to be an actor or anything. 74 00:08:00,430 --> 00:08:03,430 Okay, well I'm sorry to have disturbed you. 75 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:04,430 It's okay. 76 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:05,430 Thank you very much.