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Hacemos un uso intensivo de Moodle, tenemos muchos cursos, muchos alumnos

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y nos hemos encontrado con muchos problemas a la hora de desarrollar

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determinados planteamientos pedagógicos.

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Moodle nos ofrece unos recursos que son muy adecuados para un tipo de enseñanza

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y a nosotros que estamos intentando desarrollar determinadas ideas

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se nos queda un poco corto y tenemos que recurrir a otras cosas.

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Aquí estamos básicamente para hacer mella en los puntos más débiles de Moodle

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que precisamente con el desarrollo y hablando con desarrolladores

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poco a poco se van supliendo, se van mejorando y ahí está Moodle 2.0

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que ya habéis oído esta mañana las cosas que promete

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y queremos ver hasta qué punto lo cumple o qué podemos hacer exactamente con eso.

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Lo planteamos como retos para desarrollos futuros, nos gustaría que

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futuras versiones de Moodle incluyan o respondan a estas limitaciones

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y a estos problemas que hemos encontrado en nuestra práctica cotidiana.

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Habla del hashtag.

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Lo que os he explicado antes, hemos puesto un hashtag en Twitter

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para que todo aquel que quiera hacer algún comentario en el desarrollo de la sesión

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lo pueda hacer y pueda seguir comentarios de los compañeros de taller.

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La gente del streaming también.

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La gente del streaming también podéis desde vuestras casas cómodamente.

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Aprovecho para saludar a mi madre, a mi abuela que me sigue desde Twitter también

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y atenderemos a las preguntas que nos hagáis, procuraremos estar atentos

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a lo largo de toda la sesión, de hecho vamos a refrescar ahora mismo.

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Bueno, si te parece da bien empezamos con la presentación que habíamos preparado

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que para eso te lo has currado.

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Bueno, todo esto empieza, ya os hemos dicho que nuestra opinión sobre Moodle

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y nuestra experiencia sobre Moodle está basada en la práctica, claro.

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Está basada sobre todo en el caso de Habla Palabra.

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Habla Palabra es un curso que pusimos en marcha, lo diseñamos varias personas

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entre ellas estábamos David y Dalío y la descripción general del curso

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está en esas tres palabritas.

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Eran niños de 10 años, en concreto 72 niños de 10 años.

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Nos procuramos basar o seguir directrices o prácticas relacionadas con el conectivismo.

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¿No se oye nada?

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No, es que el micrófono no es para la megafonía sino para el streaming solo.

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Pero bueno, me pongo así, me salgo de la columna, igual desde aquí se me oye de todas partes.

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Bueno, así nos doy la espalda.

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El caso es que el curso de Habla Palabra era un curso diseñado para niños de 10 años

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en el que nos inspiramos en los principios de eso que se llama conectivismo

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que todavía está en fase de definición y en Moodle como espacio que utilizábamos

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para centralizar la actividad del curso.

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Habla Palabra ha desbordado Moodle y eso es la experiencia que venimos a contar

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y la que nos ha permitido experimentar esto que venimos a contar,

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las limitaciones de Moodle y el dilema de apertura que nos planteamos.

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Los condicionantes que os he explicado, 72 chicos y chicas con un perfil intelectual amplio.

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Esto lo queríamos explicar porque muchas veces, como tanto David como Guille como yo,

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trabajamos en un centro especializado en atención a niños con altas capacidades,

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se nos dice, sí, pero es que claro, las cosas que hacéis las podéis hacer

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porque tenéis en vuestras aulas y en vuestros cursos niños muy especiales

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que no tienen nada que ver con el resto de alumnos del planeta

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y nosotros no podemos plantearnos nada similar.

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Eso no es cierto y menos en el caso de Habla Palabra que fue un curso diseñado

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para ofrecer a la Consejería de La Rioja, de hecho se puso en marcha con su colaboración

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y en el curso se inscribieron niños tanto que habían dado resultados de percentil alto

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en los test de detección, de estos de capacidad intelectual,

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tanto eso como niños que simplemente por la opinión de sus profesores

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o de los directores de su colegio, tenían especial interés

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o pensaban ellos que podían aprovechar bien el curso y bueno, lo dimos en La Rioja.

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Se ofreció a todos los colegios, tanto públicos como concertados de La Rioja.

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Queríamos explicar también algo de las tendencias educativas

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que hay detrás del planteamiento de Habla Palabra.

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Hemos soltado el término así gordo de conectivismo pero en el fondo nuestra opción

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por el conectivismo está fundada y está guiada en tres preguntas

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que puede intentar o que yo creo que quiere responder todo aquel

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que diseña una experiencia de aprendizaje hoy en día.

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¿Quién realmente es el centro de la experiencia de aprendizaje?

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El niño, digamos, es la respuesta que está mejor vista hoy en día.

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Si el niño está en el centro, ¿dónde está el profe?

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¿Qué ha pasado con la figura clásica del profe?

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¿Dónde lo colocamos? ¿Qué hace? ¿Cuáles son sus nuevas funciones?

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¿A qué se dedica? ¿Cómo justifica ese sueldo que se lleva todos los meses a casa?

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y esta es una pregunta que no nos solemos hacer.

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y cada vez más los profesores están más preocupados por saber cómo evaluar las competencias de sus alumnos.

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sino cómo evaluarlas. ¿Cómo puedo dar fe de que mi alumno en concreto

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Haces un tipo test en Moodle, el alumno elige y si está bien saca un 9, un 8 o un 7

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Este cambio se traduce en eso que muchos han venido a llamar educación 2.0.

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estábamos mirando la pantalla, sólo leíamos y poco más,

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ahora la web nos pide, demanda de nosotros que creemos contenido, que desarrollemos cosas

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y en educación pasa algo muy parecido.

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y se escuchaba bien y si no pues también,

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y ahora los profesores estamos pidiendo a los alumnos que empiecen a hacer cosas.

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Guille, si le das al botoncito.

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¿En qué se traduce esto de educación 2.0?

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y que no hace nada más que mirar.

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que se mancharan las manos en definitiva,

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que hicieran lo mismo que están acostumbrados a hacer en su vida digital.

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sobre todo si estamos pensando en alumnos de secundaria o bachiller,

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tienen una vida digital.

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que no tiene nada que ver con lo que después nosotros les ofrecemos

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en lo que a aulas en la red se refiere.

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la actividad que ellos desarrollan en nuestras aulas es muy diferente

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de la que efectivamente ellos llevan en su vida cuando postean en Twenty,

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suben fotos al Facebook, chatean con sus colegas en Messenger

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Oh, vaya.

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Se ve pero no se oye.

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Dale, Guille.

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Entonces, lo que os explicaba.

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Nosotros hemos utilizado Moodle.

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Es la plataforma en la que hemos desarrollado el curso.

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Le dábamos eso, un uso muy intensivo.

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que cualquier cosa que fuese login múltiple,

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recordar más de una contraseña, manejar más de un entorno,

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les complicaba la vida demasiado.

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como ese centro de referencia,

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ese único espacio donde desarrollaran su actividad de aprendizaje.

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y en sacarle el máximo partido a Moodle.

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en la medida en que Moodle representaba ese espacio referencial único

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que podía facilitarles mucho el seguimiento del curso.

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nos encontramos con las limitaciones.

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pensando que nos las podía dar.

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que hay libremente disponibles en la red,

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nos encontramos con que el equivalente que nos ofrecía Moodle

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no nos convencía.

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Lo primero que nos encontramos, por poner un ejemplo claro,

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fue el tema de los blogs.

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como registro de su actividad en el curso.

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De hecho, el único documento donde se realizaban las tareas

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y a la vez se evaluaban las tareas

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era el blog de cada alumno en Moodle.

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contra el principio básico de lo que es un blog,

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no permiten comentarios.

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Sus compañeros no podían comentar las tareas de los alumnos.

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No podía haber ese intercambio básico, horizontal,

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de opinión y de conocimiento que supone cualquier blog.

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y que vosotros mismos vais a poder toquetear y experimentar

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cuando pasemos a la parte práctica de este taller.

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Adelante.

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Eso, precisamente, es lo que venimos a llamar

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el dilema de la apertura.

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Nosotros empezamos el curso en abril, ¿no?

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Empezamos el curso en abril

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y en marzo siguiente, Enrique Dans,

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que muchos conoceréis,

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publicó un artículo que se llamaba

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el dilema de la apertura.

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En el que hablaba, precisamente,

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de la paradoja que ocurre

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con las plataformas de enseñanza y aprendizaje online.

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Ya que le hemos fusilado, podía saludarle.

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Hola, Enrique Dans, si estás por ahí.

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Vale, perdón.

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Bueno, pues, simplemente eso.

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Digamos, hemos robado ese nombre,

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quizá para tratar el tema desde otra perspectiva,

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porque Enrique, digamos,

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lo trata de una manera quizá un poco corporativista,

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desde el punto de vista de la empresa,

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de la visibilidad.

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Y nosotros queríamos darle quizá otra vuelta de tuerca

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y es que Google,

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Moodle tiene un doble dilema de la apertura.

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dentro de la plataforma,

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ya nos parece demasiado rígida,

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nos parece que ofrece pocas posibilidades

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a los alumnos para comunicarse entre ellos,

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con el profesor,

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de una manera dinámica y sencilla,

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como sí ocurre con otras plataformas.

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Y de otro lado, hacia afuera.

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Es decir, visibilidad en la red,

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posibilidad de que otros agentes intervengan

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en el conocimiento que se produce.

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nos encontramos con este rollo de los blogs

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que os estaba contando,

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con que esos niños que con tanta ilusión

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generaban una tarea en su blog

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y que para su tarea entrevistaban a su abuelo,

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cogían a su abuelo, le entrevistaban,

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oye, abuelo, ¿qué te parece a ti esto?,

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¿cuál es tu experiencia con esto?,

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el abuelo les contaba el rollo

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y luego no podían enseñar su tarea a su abuelo

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a ver la tarea, que era su propia entrevista,

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toma abuelo, te paso este enlace

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y a la vez mi nombre de usuario y mi contraseña

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para que puedas ver.

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estaba cerradita y sellada en Moodle.

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de hacer intervenir a más agentes de aprendizaje

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que solo los alumnos,

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intentar implicar a los profes del cole,

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intentar implicar a las familias,

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intentar implicar a la gente del mercado

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que también, como en un curso relacionado con el lenguaje,

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hubo entrevistas también muy divertidas

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a trabajadoras domésticas ucranianas,

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oye, ¿cómo aprendiste castellano?

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y todo ese conocimiento que se generaba

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contando con mucha gente exterior al curso

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no podía volver a esa gente exterior al curso

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porque el curso estaba hecho en Moodle

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y tenía nombre de usuario y contraseña

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y los enlaces que se generaban de dentro

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no podían ofrecerse fuera.

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Hasta aquí más o menos lo que queríamos contaros.

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¿Cuál es nuestra experiencia?

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como profesores, como pedagogos, como expertos

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juguéis un poco al mismo juego

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que jugamos nosotros en su día.

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¿Puedes poner la...?

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¿Puedes poner el aula?

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¿Puedes pasar, Guille?

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¿Sí? ¿Le das otra vez?

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poner a prueba

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las dos plataformas,

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o sea, las dos plataformas,

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dos maneras de hacer las cosas

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que parece que son las más habituales

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ahora mismo en España.

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los profesores que utilizan

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o bien utilizan Moodle

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con todas sus consecuencias

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o muchos han optado por utilizar Google

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con todas las herramientas

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que ofrecen.

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Google Docs, Blogger...

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Bueno, etcétera.

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de esas dos herramientas.

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alguna guía

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para que lo tengáis más fácil,

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que sea más rápido, un poco más dinámico,

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porque tampoco tenemos aquí

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diez días para hacerlo, que sería lo ideal.

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lo que vamos a provocar es eso,

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el combate definitivo entre Google y Moodle

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a ver quién gana.

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es que trabajemos en dos grupos.

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está muy bien que unos sean

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estos ordenadores de esta mesa de aquí,

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va a trabajar con Moodle, en este bloque que es el 1.

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de tareas,

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de actividades que se pueden realizar con Moodle,

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que son muy fáciles de editar,

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hagáis un análisis. Cada uno de vosotros os repartís

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el trabajo, ahora sí hacéis una pequeña reunioncilla,

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y queremos que valoreis cada una

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de esas actividades con

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esas preguntas, que les deis

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una respuesta, una valoración

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alrededor de esas preguntas.

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¿Para qué sirve?

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pedagógico podemos darle a eso?

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Subir archivos.

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del alumno en esa actividad?

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¿qué es lo que tiene que hacer el alumno?

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¿Cuántos agentes intervienen?

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¿Quiénes son? ¿Qué visibilidad tienen?

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si se produce algo,

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si permite respuestas creativas o diferentes,

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etc.

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El chat, el foro,

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consulta, cuestionario,

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hot potatoes,

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jotaclick, y no me acuerdo qué más había.

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la tarea o encuesta.

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no la conozcáis, porque no la hayáis

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usado nunca, lo que sea.

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Sector de la izquierda.

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es que toméis algunas notas

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y os sacáis una idea mental de lo que,

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porque luego os vamos a preguntar.

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Algo muy informal, queremos conversación.

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Grupo de Google.

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Fijaos,

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solo tenéis el segundo bloque, ¿por qué?

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están fuera. Entonces, ahí tenéis

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un enlace

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a trabajar con Google.

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la parte de comunicar, mostrar y compartir.

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ahí y lo que tenéis que hacer es exactamente lo mismo.

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a decir, bueno, ¿qué posibilidades tiene

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Blogger? Y trabaja esas

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preguntas

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con esa herramienta, Blogger.

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Con el calendar, lo mismo.

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Podéis trabajar esas preguntas

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con esa herramienta,

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etcétera.

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Vamos a tener como media hora.

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Más o menos.

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Entonces, nosotros iremos paseando,

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iremos hablando

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y la idea es esa, trabajar.

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Que para eso habéis venido.

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¿Nos repartimos los equipos

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o somos neutrales?

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yo creo que ya podemos dar por finalizada

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la etapa esta de toqueteo,

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análisis, cacharreo

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y pues nada,

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vamos a empezar a sumar

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conclusiones. Si las queréis ir

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pasando por Twitter, porque os da

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más confianza, como queráis, pero

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os agradecemos que os aprovechéis

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del clima cálido que tiene

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este taller, de la confianza que estamos

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desarrollando entre nosotros y que

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intervengáis directamente. Quizá empezamos

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con el grupo de

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Moodle. Venga,

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¿qué grupos habéis trabajado por aquí?

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Nos podéis empezar a dar ideas.

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¿Quién ha trabajado

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el envío de archivos, por ejemplo?

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La subida de archivos, lo primero que hemos

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pensado es

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quién sube los archivos, es decir, si

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es una subida de archivo de un profesor que

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muestra después a los alumnos, pues una

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subida de un alumno, ya sea dentro

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de una tarea, dentro de un forum,

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como Archibot junto a un wiki, etc.

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tú piensa un poco en los cursos

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que conoces,

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en el módulo central de Moodle,

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¿cuál es el porcentaje

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de alumnos que suben archivos?

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en el cuadradito central, donde están

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las actividades, ¿cuál es el porcentaje

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de alumnos que tú dirías que suben archivos?

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Es diferente.

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Si lo miramos así, solo el profesor.

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¿Cuándo suben archivos los alumnos?

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En una tarea, básicamente

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en tareas, lo que pasa es que puedes jugar

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con tareas

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tipo subida de archivo, que solo

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la interacción es profesor-alumno,

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o en un forum donde todo el mundo

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ve todo, que es diferente.

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que dependiendo de la

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intencionalidad que tú le pones

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a la actividad y qué es lo que

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quieres que hagan, utilizarás

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una tarea,

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utilizarás un forum,

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o irás cambiando

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en función

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de lo que quieres que hagan.

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y pretendes que

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el alumno muestre lo que ha hecho,

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normalmente

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hay una mediación

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entre la actividad del alumno

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digamos la posibilidad de verlo,

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y es que suba un archivo,

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alguien tenga que descargarlo, abrirlo,

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entonces

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lógicamente no puedes dar un feedback

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directamente, sino que te tienes que

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volver al foro,

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hacer un comentario en el foro,

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o si eres el profesor, coger y comentar

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la tarea.

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Eso es.

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quiero decir, es simplemente el procedimiento.

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Básicamente

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normalmente cuando

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uno hace una tarea en ese sentido,

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lo que hace es subir el archivo y el archivo

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está ahí.

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Y los comentarios al archivo,

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digamos el conocimiento añadido

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que cualquiera pueda aplicar

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a esa actividad,

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digamos está

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inmediata en el espacio o en el tiempo,

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pues eso, un mensaje

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adicional, en ningún momento

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puede formar parte de un conjunto articulado

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Si no se puede incorporar.

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Exactamente, no se incorpora nuevo conocimiento,

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sino que se añade

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Bueno, puedes trabajar con un wiki

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como actividad.

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Pero trabajar con un wiki ya no es trabajar con un archivo,

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con subir un archivo.

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Es diferente.

481
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Es diferente.

482
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
La intencionalidad

483
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de lo que tú pides es diferente también.

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¿Cómo se evalúa un archivo

485
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subido?

486
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
¿Cómo se evalúa

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un archivo?

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El que sube el profesor,

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nada. El que sube el alumno,

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hay una valoración.

491
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000
En función de la escala de valoración

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que hayas montado para

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esa actividad, más la retracción que le hagas

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al alumno a través del cuadro

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de retracción de las calificaciones,

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haces la devolución.

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Incluso en el caso de una

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carga avanzada de

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archivos,

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tú puedes devolver retracción

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y puedes devolver el archivo corregido

502
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000
pasando a borrador otra vez para que te lo devuelvan

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otra vez.

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Sí que vas cambiando.

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En el caso de tareas, uno a uno.

506
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El problema es que quieres implicar a más alumnos.

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00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Puedes hacer lo mismo con el forum.

508
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Devolver el archivo corregido,

509
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
que te lo vuelvan a subir

510
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000
y cada uno puede decir lo que le parece.

511
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
Es decalado en el tiempo,

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pero lo puedes hacer.

513
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¿No sería mejor

514
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trabajar eso con un wiki?

515
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
Bueno, sería

516
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
diferente, pero en un wiki

517
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yo creo que la tarea que tú pides

518
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000
en un wiki es diferente de cuando

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pides subir un archivo.

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Es diferente.

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La clave de la subida de archivos es la relación

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uno a uno que decía él.

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Sí.

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La subida de archivos

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00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000
es una forma muy eficaz

526
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de limitar a uno a uno

527
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la comunicación de ese proceso

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de aprendizaje.

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Deja los comentarios horizontales,

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00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
que las miradas horizontales

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00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000
del resto de compañeros del curso

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no intervengan, no tengan valor.

533
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Puede ser una manera

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00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
de preservar la privacidad

535
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
o el orgullo del alumno

536
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que se sienta seguro en esa confianza

537
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000
y ya queda el proceso clásico

538
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de tú que eres el profesor, te traigo una tarea,

539
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
corrigela discretamente en tu casa,

540
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me devuelves la evaluación

541
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
y esto queda en un intercambio

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privado entre una persona

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que es la que sabe

544
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y la que no sabe.

545
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Yo avergonzado de no saber, te paso algo,

546
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me lo devuelves y entre nosotros

547
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queda el proceso que es un poco...

548
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Lo que pasa es que, vamos a ver,

549
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000
nosotros, nada más empezar,

550
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000
creo que nos dimos cuenta de una cosa

551
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y es que yo les planteaba a ellos

552
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000
que de alguna manera veía

553
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000
algún tipo de perversión en vuestro planteamiento

554
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000
y la perversión es que estáis analizando

555
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
elemento a elemento.

556
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Entonces, efectivamente,

557
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si tú analizas solamente la subida de archivos

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es incompleta, pero la

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ventaja de Moodle

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o la buena característica de Moodle

561
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
es que te permite escoger

562
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000
qué actividad vas a utilizar

563
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000
en un momento y para qué.

564
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000
Entonces, yo no utilizaría la actividad

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00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
subida de archivos uno a uno

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00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
para lo que estáis planteando.

567
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Probablemente la evaluación sea distinta.

568
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000
Igual la subida de archivos no tiene ese planteamiento.

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00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Es simplemente una información

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00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
del profesor.

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00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000
Ahora, a lo mejor utilizas,

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00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
si pretendes eso, utilizas un wiki,

573
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utilizas un taller,

574
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
utilizas lo mismo con la evaluación.

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00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
Depende de qué tipo de escala utilices,

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depende de qué ideología

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00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
tengas detrás con respecto a esa evaluación.

578
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Entonces, bueno, vale, de acuerdo.

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00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
Ahora lo que se trata es

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00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000
de ver, a partir de ahí,

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00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
qué carencias tiene Moodle en general,

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00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000
no actividad de actividad,

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en el planteamiento

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de participación

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00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
por parte de

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00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
alumnos, de comunicación,

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00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
qué es lo que le falta

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00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000
ahí y probablemente

589
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000
qué tenga de ventajas Google

590
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
con respecto a eso.

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00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000
Para ver más claramente

592
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
las carencias de Moodle,

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00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
analizamos,

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00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000
no sé si alguno de vosotros lo ha hecho ya,

595
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000
aquellas herramientas que dentro de Moodle

596
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
permiten un trabajo de tipo

597
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
más colaborativo, como habéis dicho, como la wiki,

598
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000
como los foros.

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00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000
¿Alguien se ha encargado de trabajar,

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00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000
de analizar en concreto esas herramientas

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aquí en esta mesa?

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00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
¿Eh?

603
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Está difícil lo del micrófono.

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00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Para el streaming.

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Por ejemplo, el bolsario.

606
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000
¿Qué habéis encontrado en el bolsario?

607
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000
¿Quién diseña?

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00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Ah, en relación con el bolsario, el que diseña

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00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000
la actividad es el profesor.

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Sirve,

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00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000
yo creo que el bolsario tiene un componente

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00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
de aprendizaje colaborativo

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000
si se diseña bien la actividad.

614
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Si se diseña bien, tiene un componente

615
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000
de copy-paste muy importante, ¿no?

616
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Que tampoco es malo, ¿no?

617
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
El papel del alumno,

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00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
si se diseña bien la actividad, puede ser

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00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000
buscar información y reelaborarla

620
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
para poner el bolsario

621
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000
en términos

622
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
que los otros alumnos puedan entenderlo.

623
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Si se hace un copy-paste, a lo mejor

624
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
hay un lenguaje que no entienden

625
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
los demás alumnos, ¿no?

626
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
El papel del profesor es

627
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000
diseñar bien la actividad

628
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000
con una tarea bien diseñada,

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00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
lógicamente, y calificar

630
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000
el bolsario.

631
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Claro, una cosa

632
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
que yo he ido viendo

633
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
cuando pasaba por

634
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000
los profesores, es que

635
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
todos, todos, todos, todos, todos

636
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
hablan de que

637
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000
el profesor diseña,

638
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
el profesor pinte cómo y cuándo son las cosas,

639
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
cómo se hacen,

640
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000
cómo va a ser el producto,

641
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000
que si yo lo quiero, yo lo quiero.

642
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Y cómo lo vas a hacer.

643
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000
Y eso para nosotros, como luego lo veréis,

644
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
es algo muy importante.

645
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Porque dicen mucho

646
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000
que precisamente

647
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
eso que estábamos planteando antes,

648
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
¿quién es el

649
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
protagonista en el proceso

650
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
de aprendizaje?

651
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
¿Quién decide qué se aprende y cómo se aprende

652
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
y cuándo se aprende?

653
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Y después hablamos muchas veces

654
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
de los alumnos.

655
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Hablamos muchas veces de que los alumnos

656
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
son todos distintos,

657
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
que cada uno aprende de una manera,

658
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
que cada uno tiene una forma

659
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000
de digerir el conocimiento,

660
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000
de producir conocimiento, pero, atención,

661
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
en el aula hacemos

662
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
una actividad para todos,

663
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
el enunciado es el mismo para todos,

664
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
el trabajo es el mismo para todos

665
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000
y el producto que buscamos es el mismo.

666
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Básicamente.

667
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Bueno,

668
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000
eso puede ser así o no.

669
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000
De todas maneras, siempre tiene que haber alguien que decida

670
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000
lo que hay que hacer. O sea, tú estás en un aula,

671
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000
no puede ser que... Bueno, vamos a aprender

672
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
aquí sobre esto. Tú puedes diseñar

673
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
la actividad de otra forma distinta.

674
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Cuidado, cuidado con la retórica.

675
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Cuidado con la retórica.

676
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000
De centrar en el aprendizaje.

677
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000
De acuerdo, vamos a

678
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
darle importancia a cada uno que tiene,

679
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000
pero es el docente

680
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
el que debe decidir, el que debe planificar,

681
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
el que debe...

682
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
¿Es el docente el especialista?

683
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Si no, ¿para qué está? Es decir,

684
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Bolonia, por ejemplo, en las universidades,

685
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
lo que plantea es

686
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
centrar en el aprendizaje

687
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
del alumno. ¿Pero eso qué quiere decir?

688
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
¿Que el profesor se lava las manos? ¿Que la carga del alumno

689
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
ahora la tiene y hay un número de horas?

690
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000
¿Eh? Los que estáis

691
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000
en la universidad sabéis de lo que estoy hablando.

692
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Ahora, los alumnos tienen ahí

693
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
un número de horas en los cuales

694
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000
no se sabe lo que hace. Nosotros planteamos

695
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000
la actividad y fuera. ¿No?

696
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000
No, cuidado. Es precisamente

697
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
la carga docente

698
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
la que tiene el cambio

699
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
de actitud ahí.

700
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Es decir, vamos a centrarnos

701
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
no en el aprendizaje, sino en la docencia

702
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
de nuevo. ¿Eh?

703
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Y entonces le daremos valor al aprendizaje.

704
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000
El problema básicamente no está

705
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
si os dais cuenta, en las herramientas,

706
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000
en Moodle o en Google.

707
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000
El problema

708
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
fundamental es cuál es

709
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
el papel de cada uno de los agentes

710
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
que participan en el proceso de enseñanza

711
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
y aprendizaje. Y estamos

712
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
el problema en el que estamos es en el rediseño

713
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
de sus papeles.

714
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
La redefinición de

715
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
¿qué hago yo?

716
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Si queréis ver los foros,

717
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
que por ejemplo es lo mejor de

718
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Moodle.

719
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
...

720
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Bien. Nosotras, bueno, otra vez

721
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
la misma aclaración. Pensábamos que

722
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
cualquiera de estas herramientas o recursos

723
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000
dependía del

724
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
modo en que el profesor

725
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
lo utiliza, del modelo didáctico

726
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
que está ahí detrás. ¿No? Pero bueno, en principio

727
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
en el foro, en cuanto a quién

728
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000
enseña la actividad,

729
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
bueno, un debate lo puede iniciar

730
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
cualquier participante

731
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000
del aula, ¿no? Un alumno

732
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
o un profesor. Claro, siempre alguien que esté

733
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
dentro del curso, eso sí.

734
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000
¿Para qué sirve?

735
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Bueno, otra vez, para interactuar,

736
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
para comunicarnos,

737
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
para... Bien,

738
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
según.

739
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
¿Cuál es el papel del

740
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
alumno en esa actividad?

741
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Bueno, pues

742
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000
otra vez, como el foro es tan abierto

743
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
y nos permite cosas tan diferentes,

744
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
pues

745
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
colaborar en el aprendizaje

746
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000
con sus compañeros,

747
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
o al revés, interactuar

748
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
con el profesor.

749
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Y el profesor, bueno,

750
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
otra vez, podrá dinamizar,

751
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
podrá comenzar ese debate,

752
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000
podrá animarlo,

753
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
podrá orientarlo.

754
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Nos parecía que era como la...

755
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
el recurso

756
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000
más abierto y que más posibilidades

757
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
ofrecía para el análisis, para el trabajo

758
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
y también para este análisis.

759
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
¿Cuántos agentes

760
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000
intervienen? Pues todos, pero

761
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000
otra vez, todos los que están dentro del

762
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
curso.

763
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Bueno, al menos pueden intervenir.

764
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Profesores

765
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000
y alumnos.

766
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,000
El asunto de la evaluación, pues

767
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
otra vez,

768
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
es una evaluación interna.

769
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Otra vez, aquí nos podemos plantear

770
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
quién evalúa y qué evalúa.

771
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Entonces, bueno, podemos evaluar

772
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000
la colaboración,

773
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
la participación,

774
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
la satisfacción, bueno, según por

775
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000
donde vaya ese foro.

776
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Y otra vez, nos teníamos que preguntar

777
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000
si el que evalúa es siempre el profesor

778
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
o si son los alumnos que pueden estar

779
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
evaluando también el curso

780
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000
o las opiniones de los demás y demás.

781
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
...

782
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
...

783
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
...

784
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
...

785
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
...

786
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
...

787
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
...

788
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
...

789
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000
...

790
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
...

791
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Yo, por porcentaje

792
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
de cursos que he visto y tal,

793
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
yo diría que un gran porcentaje

794
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000
es el profesor el que decide

795
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
si vamos a debatir de...

796
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
...

797
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
...

798
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
...

799
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
...

800
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
...

801
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
...

802
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000
...

803
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
...

804
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
...

805
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
...

806
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
...

807
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
...

808
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
...

809
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
...

810
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
...

811
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000
...

812
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
...

813
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000
...

814
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000
...

815
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000
...

816
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000
...

817
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000
...

818
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000
...

819
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
...

820
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000
...

821
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,000
...

822
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
...

823
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000
...

824
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000
...

825
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
...

826
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000
...

827
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
...

828
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
...

829
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
...

830
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000
...

831
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
...

832
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
...

833
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
...

834
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
...

835
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000
...

836
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
...

837
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
...

838
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
...

839
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000
...

840
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
...

841
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000
...

842
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
...

843
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000
...

844
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
...

845
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
...

846
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
...

847
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000
...

848
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000
...

849
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
...

850
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000
...

851
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000
...

852
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000
...

853
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
...

854
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
...

855
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
...

856
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
...

857
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
...

858
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
...

859
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000
...

860
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000
...

861
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
...

862
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
...

863
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
...

864
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
...

865
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,000
...

866
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000
...

867
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
...

868
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
...

869
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
...

870
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000
...

871
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
...

872
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000
...

873
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000
...

874
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000
...

875
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000
...

876
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000
...

877
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000
...

878
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000
...

879
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
...

880
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
...

881
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
...

882
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000
...

883
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
...

884
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000
...

885
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
...

886
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
...

887
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
...

888
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000
...

889
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
...

890
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
...

891
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
...

892
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
...

893
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000
...

894
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000
...

895
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000
...

896
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
...

897
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
...

898
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
...

899
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000
...

900
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
...

901
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000
...

902
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
...

903
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
...

904
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
...

905
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
...

906
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
...

907
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000
...

908
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000
...

909
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000
...

910
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000
...

911
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000
...

912
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000
...

913
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
...

914
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000
...

915
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000
...

916
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
...

917
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
...

918
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000
...

919
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
...

920
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000
...

921
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000
...

922
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
...

923
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
...

924
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000
...

925
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
...

926
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
...

927
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,000
...

928
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
...

929
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
...

930
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
...

931
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
...

932
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
...

933
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
...

934
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
...

935
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
...

936
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
...

937
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,000
...

938
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
...

939
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
...

940
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
...

941
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
...

942
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
...

943
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
...

944
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000
...

945
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
...

946
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000
...

947
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
...

948
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
...

949
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
...

950
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,000
....

951
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
...

952
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
...

953
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
...

954
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
...

955
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
...

956
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000
...

957
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
...

958
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
...

959
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000
...

960
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000
...

961
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
...

962
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000
...

963
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000
...

964
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
...

965
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
...

966
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
...

967
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
...

968
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000
...

969
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000
...

970
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000
...

971
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
...

972
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
...

973
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000
...

974
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
...

975
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000
...

976
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
...

977
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
...

978
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000
...

979
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
...

980
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000
...

981
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000
...

982
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,000
...

983
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000
...

984
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
...

985
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
...

986
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000
...

987
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000
...

988
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
...

989
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000
...

990
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000
...

991
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
...

992
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,000
...

993
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
...

994
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000
...

995
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
...

996
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
...

997
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,000
...

998
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
...

999
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,000
...

1000
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000
...

1001
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
...

1002
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000
...

1003
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
...

1004
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000
...

1005
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
...

1006
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000
...

1007
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
...

1008
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
...

1009
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000
...

1010
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000
...

1011
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000
...

1012
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000
...

1013
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000
...

1014
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
...

1015
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
...

1016
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
...

1017
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,000
...

1018
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000
...

1019
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000
...

1020
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,000
...

1021
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000
...

1022
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
...

1023
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,000
...

1024
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000
...

1025
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000
...

1026
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,000
...

1027
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
...

1028
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000
...

1029
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,000
...

1030
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000
...

1031
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
...

1032
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
...

1033
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
...

1034
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
...

1035
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
...

1036
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000
...

1037
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000
...

1038
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
...

1039
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
...

1040
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,000
...

1041
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000
...

1042
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,000
...

1043
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,000
...

1044
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000
...

1045
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000
...

1046
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
...

1047
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
...

1048
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000
...

1049
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000
...

1050
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000
...

1051
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
...

1052
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,000
...

1053
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
...

1054
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
...

1055
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000
...

1056
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,000
...

1057
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000
...

1058
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000
...

1059
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
...

1060
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
...

1061
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,000
...

1062
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000
...

1063
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000
...

1064
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
...

1065
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000
...

1066
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
...

1067
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
...

1068
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000
...

1069
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000
...

1070
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
...

1071
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,000
...

1072
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
...

1073
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
...

1074
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000
...

1075
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
...

1076
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000
...

1077
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,000
...

1078
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000
...

1079
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
...

1080
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,000
...

1081
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000
...

1082
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
...

1083
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
...

1084
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
...

1085
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,000
...

1086
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
...

1087
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
...

1088
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
...

1089
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
...

1090
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000
...

1091
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
...

1092
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
...

1093
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
...

1094
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
...

1095
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,000
...

1096
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000
...

1097
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,000
...

1098
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,000
...

1099
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,000
...

1100
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
...

1101
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
...

1102
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000
...

1103
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,000
...

1104
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,000
...

1105
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000
...

1106
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,000
...

1107
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000
...

1108
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000
...

1109
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000
...

1110
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,000
...

1111
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,000
...

1112
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,000
...

1113
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000
...

1114
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
...

1115
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
...

1116
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
...

1117
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,000
...

1118
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,000
...

1119
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000
...

1120
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000
...

1121
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
...

1122
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
...

1123
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,000
...

1124
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,000
...

1125
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,000
...

1126
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000
...

1127
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000
...

1128
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,000
...

1129
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000
...

1130
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
...

1131
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,000
...

1132
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
...

1133
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
...

1134
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,000
...

1135
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,000
...

1136
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,000
...

1137
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000
...

1138
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,000
...

1139
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,000
...

1140
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000
...

1141
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,000
...

1142
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,000
...

1143
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,000
...

1144
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000
...

1145
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
...

1146
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
...

1147
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,000
...

1148
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000
...

1149
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000
...

1150
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000
...

1151
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,000
...

1152
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000
...

1153
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000
...

1154
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000
...

1155
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000
...

1156
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
...

1157
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000
...

1158
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
...

1159
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,000
...

1160
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000
...

1161
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000
...

1162
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000
...

1163
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,000
...

1164
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000
...

1165
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000
...

1166
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
...

1167
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000
...

1168
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
...

1169
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000
...

1170
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000
...

1171
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
...

1172
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
...

1173
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000
...

1174
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000
...

1175
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000
...

1176
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,000
...

1177
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000
...

1178
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
...

1179
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
...

1180
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
...

1181
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
...

1182
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000
...

1183
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000
...

1184
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000
...

1185
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000
...

1186
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000
...

1187
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,000
...

1188
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000
...

1189
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,000
...

1190
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000
...

1191
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000
...

1192
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000
...

1193
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000
...

1194
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000
...

1195
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000
...

1196
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,000
...

1197
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000
...

1198
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
...

1199
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000
...

1200
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000
...

1201
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,000
...

1202
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
...

1203
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000
...

1204
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000
...

1205
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000
...

1206
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
...

1207
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
...

1208
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000
...

1209
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000
...

1210
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
...

1211
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
...

1212
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
...

1213
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000
...

1214
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000
...

1215
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
...

1216
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000
...

1217
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000
...

1218
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
...

1219
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000
...

1220
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
...

1221
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000
...

1222
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
...

1223
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
...

1224
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
...

1225
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
...

1226
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
...

1227
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
...

1228
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
...

1229
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000
...

1230
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
...

1231
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
...

1232
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
...

1233
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
...

1234
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
...

1235
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
...

1236
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
...

1237
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
...

1238
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
...

1239
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000
...

1240
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000
...

1241
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
...

1242
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000
...

1243
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
...

1244
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000
...

1245
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000
...

1246
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000
...

1247
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000
...

1248
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000
...

1249
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,000
...

1250
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000
...

1251
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000
...

1252
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
...

1253
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000
...

1254
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000
...

1255
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000
...

1256
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
...

1257
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000
...

1258
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
...

1259
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000
...

1260
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000
...

1261
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000
...

1262
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000
...

1263
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000
...

1264
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
...

1265
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
...

1266
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000
...

1267
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000
...

1268
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,000
...

1269
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000
...

1270
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
...

1271
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000
...

1272
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
...

1273
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000
...

1274
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000
...

1275
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,000
...

1276
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000
...

1277
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,000
...

1278
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
...

1279
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,000
...

1280
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000
...

1281
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000
...

1282
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000
...

1283
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000
...

1284
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000
...

1285
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000
...

1286
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000
...

1287
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000
...

1288
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
...

1289
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
...

1290
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
...

1291
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
...

1292
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
...

1293
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000
...

1294
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
...

1295
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000
...

1296
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
...

1297
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,000
...

1298
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000
...

1299
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,000
...

1300
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
...

1301
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
...

1302
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,000
...

1303
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000
...

1304
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000
...

1305
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000
...

1306
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000
...

1307
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000
...

1308
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
...

1309
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000
...

1310
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000
...

1311
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000
...

1312
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
...

1313
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
...

1314
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
...

1315
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000
...

1316
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,000
...

1317
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
...

1318
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
...

1319
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
...

1320
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000
...

1321
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,000
...

1322
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000
...

1323
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
...

1324
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000
...

1325
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,000
...

1326
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
...

1327
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000
...

1328
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
...

1329
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000
...

1330
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000
...

1331
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000
...

1332
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
...

1333
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
...

1334
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000
...

1335
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000
...

1336
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
...

1337
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000
...

1338
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000
...

1339
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000
...

1340
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,000
...

1341
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000
...

1342
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000
...

1343
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000
...

1344
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000
...

1345
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000
...

1346
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
...

1347
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
...

1348
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000
...

1349
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000
...

1350
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
...

1351
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
...

1352
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000
...

1353
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
...

1354
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
...

1355
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000
...

1356
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,000
...

1357
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000
...

1358
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,000
...

1359
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000
...

1360
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,000
...

1361
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000
...

1362
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000
...

1363
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
...

1364
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000
...

1365
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
...

1366
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,000
...

1367
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000
...

1368
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
...

1369
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
...

1370
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
...

1371
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000
...

1372
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
...

1373
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
...

1374
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
...

1375
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
...

1376
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
...

1377
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000
...

1378
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000
...

1379
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
...

1380
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
...

1381
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000
...

1382
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
...

1383
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
...

1384
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
...

1385
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000
...

1386
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000
...

1387
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000
...

1388
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000
...

1389
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
...

1390
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000
...

1391
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000
...

1392
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
...

1393
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
...

1394
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
...

1395
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000
...

1396
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000
...

1397
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,000
...

1398
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,000
...

1399
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,000
...

1400
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,000
...

1401
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000
...

1402
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000
...

1403
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000
...

1404
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
...

1405
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,000
...

1406
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
...

1407
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,000
...

1408
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,000
...

1409
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000
...

1410
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,000
...

1411
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,000
...

1412
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,000
...

1413
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000
...

1414
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,000
...

1415
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000
...

1416
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
...

1417
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,000
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1418
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1419
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1420
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1421
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1422
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1423
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1424
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1425
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1426
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1427
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1428
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1429
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1430
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1431
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1432
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1433
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1434
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1435
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1436
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1437
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1438
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1439
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1440
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1441
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1442
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1443
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1444
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1445
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1446
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1447
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1448
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1449
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1450
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1451
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1452
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1453
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1454
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1455
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1456
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1457
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1458
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1459
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1460
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1461
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1462
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1463
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1464
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1465
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1466
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1467
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1468
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1469
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1470
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1471
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1472
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1473
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1474
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1475
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1476
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1477
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1478
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1479
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1480
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1481
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1482
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1483
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1484
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1485
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1486
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1487
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1488
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1489
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1490
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1491
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1492
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1493
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1494
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1495
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1496
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1497
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1498
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1499
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1500
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1501
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1502
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1503
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1504
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1505
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1506
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1507
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1508
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1509
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1510
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1511
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1512
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1513
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1514
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
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1515
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1516
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1517
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1518
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1519
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1520
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1521
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1522
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1523
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1524
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1525
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1526
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1527
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1528
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1529
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1530
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1531
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1532
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1533
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1534
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1535
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1536
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1537
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1538
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1539
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1540
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1541
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1542
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1543
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1544
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1545
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1546
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1547
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1548
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1549
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1550
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1551
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1552
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1553
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1554
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1555
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1556
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1557
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1558
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1559
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1560
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1561
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1562
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1563
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1564
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1565
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1566
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1567
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1568
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1569
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1570
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1571
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1572
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1573
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1574
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1575
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1576
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1577
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1578
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1579
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1580
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1581
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1582
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1583
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1584
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1585
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1586
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1587
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1588
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1589
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1590
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1591
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1592
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1593
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1594
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1595
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1596
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1597
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1598
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,000
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1599
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,000
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1600
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1601
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,000
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1602
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1603
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1604
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1605
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1606
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1607
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1608
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1609
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1610
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1611
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1612
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1613
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1614
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1615
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1616
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1617
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1618
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1619
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1620
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1621
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1622
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1623
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1624
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1625
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1626
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1627
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1628
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1629
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1630
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1631
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1632
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1633
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1634
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1635
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1636
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1637
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1638
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1639
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1640
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1641
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1642
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1643
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1644
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1645
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1646
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1647
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1648
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1649
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1650
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1651
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1652
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1653
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1654
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1655
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1656
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1657
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1658
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1659
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1660
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1661
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1662
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1663
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1664
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1665
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1666
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000
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1667
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,000
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1668
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1669
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,000
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1670
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,000
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1671
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,000
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1672
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1673
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1674
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1675
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1676
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1677
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,000
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1678
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,000
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1679
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1680
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1681
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1682
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1683
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1684
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1685
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1686
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1687
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1688
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
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1689
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1690
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1691
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1692
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,000
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1693
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1694
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1695
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1696
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1697
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1698
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1699
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,000
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1700
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1701
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1702
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1703
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1704
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1705
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1706
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1707
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1708
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1709
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1710
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1711
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1712
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1713
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1714
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1715
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1716
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1717
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1718
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,000
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1719
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1720
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1721
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1722
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1723
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1724
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1725
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1726
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1727
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1728
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1729
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1730
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1731
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1732
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1733
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1734
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1735
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1736
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1737
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1738
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1739
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1740
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1741
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1742
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1743
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1744
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1745
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1746
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1747
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1748
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1749
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1750
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1751
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1752
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1753
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1754
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1755
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1756
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1757
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1758
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1759
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,000
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1760
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,000
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1761
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,000
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1762
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,000
...

1763
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,000
...

1764
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,000
...

1765
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,000
...

1766
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,000
...

1767
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,000
...

1768
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,000
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1769
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,000
...

1770
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,000
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1771
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,000
...

1772
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,000
...

1773
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,000
...

1774
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,000
...

1775
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,000
...

1776
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,000
...

1777
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,000
...

1778
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,000
...

1779
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,000
...

1780
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,000
...

1781
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,000
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1782
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,000
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1783
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,000
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1784
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,000
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1785
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,000
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1786
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,000
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1787
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,000
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1788
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,000
...

1789
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,000
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1790
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,000
...

1791
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,000
...

1792
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,000
...

1793
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,000
...

1794
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,000
...

1795
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,000
...

1796
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,000
...

1797
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,000
...

1798
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,000
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1799
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,000
...

1800
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,000
...

1801
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,000
...

1802
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,000
...

1803
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,000
...

1804
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,000
...

1805
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,000
...

1806
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,000
...

1807
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,000
...

1808
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,000
...

1809
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,000
...

1810
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,000
...

1811
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,000
...

1812
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,000
...

1813
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,000
...

1814
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,000
...

1815
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,000
...

1816
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,000
...

1817
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,000
...

1818
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,000
...

1819
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,000
...

1820
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,000
...

1821
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,000
...

1822
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000
...

1823
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,000
...

1824
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,000
...

1825
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,000
...

1826
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,000
...

1827
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,000
...

1828
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,000
...

1829
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,000
...

1830
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
...

1831
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,000
...

1832
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,000
...

1833
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,000
...

1834
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,000
...

1835
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,000
...

1836
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,000
...

1837
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000
...

1838
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,000
...

1839
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,000
...

1840
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,000
...

1841
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,000
...

1842
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,000
...

1843
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,000
...

1844
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,000
...

1845
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,000
...

1846
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,000
...

1847
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,000
...

1848
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,000
...

1849
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,000
...

1850
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,000
...

1851
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,000
...

1852
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,000
...

1853
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,000
...

1854
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,000
...

1855
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,000
...

1856
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,000
...

1857
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,000
...

1858
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,000
...

1859
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,000
...

1860
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,000
...

1861
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,000
...

1862
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,000
...

1863
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,000
...

1864
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,000
...

1865
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,000
...

1866
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,000
...

1867
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,000
...

1868
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,000
...

1869
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,000
...

1870
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,000
...

1871
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,000
...

1872
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,000
...

1873
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,000
...

1874
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,000
...

1875
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,000
...

1876
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,000
...

1877
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,000
...

1878
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,000
...

1879
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,000
...

1880
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,000
...

1881
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,000
...

1882
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,000
...

1883
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,000
...

1884
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,000
...

1885
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,000
...

1886
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,000
...

1887
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,000
...

1888
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,000
...

1889
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,000
...

1890
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,000
...

1891
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,000
...

1892
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,000
...

1893
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,000
...

1894
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,000
...

1895
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,000
...

1896
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,000
...

1897
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,000
...

1898
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,000
...

1899
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,000
...

1900
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,000
...

1901
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,000
...

1902
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,000
...