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Cristina y Ester, profesoras del centro, hablan con las compañeras profesoras de Italia y de Finlandia que visitaron nuestro centro en el marco del programa Erasmus+. Cuentan cómo es su trabajo en sus centros de origen y cómo ha sido su experiencia en España y en nuestro centro.
Hello, good afternoon. How are you? Welcome to another program of Radio Burbuja. We are
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here with a very special guest from the Erasmus program. We have Elina. Hello, Elina. How
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are you? Hello, nice to see you all and nice to come here and participate in this project.
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Thank you. Elina is from Finland. She has come also with another two teachers, two more
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teachers. Johanna, hello, how are you? Hello, Christina. It's great to be here. Iris, hello.
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How are you? Hello, Christina. So glad to be here. They come from Ilma Joki, from another
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adult education school. But we also have two more visitors from another country, from Italy.
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We have Paola. Hi, Paola. How are you doing? Hi. Thank you for hosting us. And Marisa.
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They come also from GPA3 from Torino. Hello. Okay. I'm going to tell you how we met. Well,
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for the listeners, we met in a TCA. It's an international cooperation activity in Warsaw.
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So we could have the opportunity to meet Johanna and Iris and also Paola in that TCA. And then
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when we were working together during those three days, I remember last year in September,
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we decided to work in the projects, in the Erasmus project together. And that's why now
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they are here. Welcome. Well, the first question I would like to ask you is, is this the first
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school, adult school you see outside your countries or not? For us, it is. It's the
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first one. For Paola and Marisa? For us too, because it is the first time that we are arranging
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an Erasmus project. And this is possible due to our met in Warsaw. And have you seen many
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differences or a lot of differences between our school and yours in your countries?
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Maybe the location is the biggest difference. Because our school is in the middle of the
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countryside, in the middle of fields and forests. And this school is in the city. And a part of
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that, what we see more is similarities. Maybe that's the biggest difference.
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Well, it's a big difference. And I also would like to add that in our school, we have just
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studies from eight till four maximum. But here, it was a surprise for us to know that lessons can
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last till nine in the evening. So depending or giving more opportunities for students who have
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job to also participate in study, it's great. But at the same time, it's funny to see how
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students are similar, no matter where you are now. That's interesting.
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What about yours? Our school, we found many similar things from timetable and also for
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offer and students. Yes, many, many similar things and something different. I think many
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things linked to local culture and also local politics and government. Sometimes it's very
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different from our support that we have in our school in general in Italy.
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What timetable do you do in Italy? The same of yours. From nine to nine. Yes, yes. Because in
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the night, we have many workers that need to improve some language, Italian language to work
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and to improve their education. Then we need to work until nine. Some school has hour in Turin,
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in the city centre because our school is out of the city centre. Work until 10 o'clock in the night
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because the people need to work during the night to study during the night because during the day
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they work. What about the age? Because as you can see, most of our students are around their 20s.
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But as you have seen, for example, in my lesson, some of them are
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retired or are 16. What about the age in your schools? Are they young, younger?
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We have people from all the age groups. I think the youngest at the moment is around 15 years.
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The oldest just turned out 88 years. Wow.
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A Ukrainian lady. Yes, I met her. But 15 you said? Yes, 15 is the youngest. So adult education
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starts in Finland when you are 15 years old? Well, our school is not a normal school. Right.
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We offer many kinds of education. So, for example, with the immigrant education,
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we might have a bit younger students than normally in Finland.
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I can also add something just to clarify. The fact is that when a foreign family comes to
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study, mostly parents are the ones who apply for school. And as long as the family has
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children of different ages, like from the sixth degree,
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unfortunately there is no preparatory course for this age. So there is a preparatory course
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where they study first Finnish language, and then little by little they are integrated into
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normal lessons or normal class, whereby the teaching is in Finnish. So it takes time.
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That's why after the sixth grade, so from 13 and higher, the child needs to first get some
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basis about Finnish language. And that's why, like the other schools cannot provide that,
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that's why at least for one year the child, like 15, 16 years old child, has to stay, for example,
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in the same classroom with the parents, which is also very convenient and nice to them. They
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get to know the culture and the system, how it works. Yeah. That's a big difference with our
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system, because we should have more lessons for immigrants who do not know the language.
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We have three groups, two groups, only two. And what about in Italy? Do you have the same
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range of age? Yes, the younger, he is 15 years old. Only if they are attending a secondary school
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during the day, and during the evening they come in our school too. And we support them in Italian
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language for studying. We support them during their study in a secondary school for young.
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And then, because from 16, all students can come in our school until we have not the end,
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yes, we have no limit. And we have courses for people that are just arrived in Italy and has a
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low educational profile. And another part is for people that already or has just studied two years
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in Italy or in our school and follow the study until receive the certificate of the end of the
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course. Or someone that come with an higher level of education, then they need only to
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improve Italian language to start working or continue studying in Italy. This is the offer.
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Then we have other courses in addition like technology, informatics or Italian for
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special issues, for example. And sometimes we have also courses generally for Spanish
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courses or English for all people that want to learn. So similar to us that we have the
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English lessons or technology. But only, well, we don't have for the years before we have French
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or theater, but we don't have that any longer. What do you teach there apart from secondary
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school? Do you have, as they said, as Paula said, other languages?
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So our department of the school, we teach like elementary school for adults, basic education
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for adults, and also this integration studies like language and culture for adults. And those groups
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are mixed. They are in the same classrooms and they learn the same things. And for one or two
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or maybe three years in our school. What are the things that you have liked more about our school?
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Many, many things, many ideas. A lot of projects with the students in the class,
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and because in our school we teach in the class, but don't have a project involved
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all the school. Yes, generally we project something in our class during our lesson.
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I, for example, I work with ludic activities so much, but in my class also because I have
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a particular student, that is to say, but generally we are spontaneous activities that
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we have to improve this and to share with all teachers and to fix something in
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for always in our school like you do. We have something that you share and all classes join
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with their own possibility. And this is very important because you create something for anyone.
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And I think that it's very interesting things that we have to learn, for example.
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As much as you say, as much as you can enrich yourself.
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And, you know, for some of you, this is the first time you are in Spain.
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So what are your impressions so far? Of course, you have been here just for very few days for
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the moment. But what are your impressions about the Spain or Spanish people? Well,
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well, I think Spanish people are really easy going and friendly and Alcala is a really nice
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and green town. Yeah, we have a big number of trees. And yes, I read something about
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it doesn't look so green, but it's true that it's green. And it's autumn time in Finland at the
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moment. So maybe compared to that, this looks a lot greener. And also, I have to mention that
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your history is really interesting. And I love those old buildings in the center.
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I also was about to say and mention the architecture of the buildings. They are looking
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very nice and they are looking very solid. Meanwhile, they may be very, very old. We are
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really admiring how strong and like they are and the way they look and the architecture is really
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very beautiful. Especially the streets are also very beautiful. And it is really nice to walk
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along and admire because the these bricks, the red bricks, the houses are made from,
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it is very impressive and really nice. Of course, it's more similar to Italy. But
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do you have any new impression so far? I know for me, Spain is home because
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two or three times per year I come in Spain, mainly in Salamanca to study because I was a
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teacher of Spanish for children. Then I studied so much culture and language. And for me, it's
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always a discovery. Yes, because it's always new, something new to learn. And it's the first time
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in Alcalá, the birthplace of Cervantes. I'm so excited about this.
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I feel Spanish, a sister of Italy.
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Yes, I agree. Very similar, yeah. But I don't see so much difference.
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Thank you very much. We hope to see you back again soon, sometime in the future.
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You know, you are welcome. Thank you so much. And we hope to see you in Finland in our school.
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We are waiting for you. It's fixed yet, no? Soon.
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Yes. And thank you for being prepared for this, for our visit, because we can see
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the whole team. So, like, great impact and time you spent on preparing. The program is really
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very interesting and really rich and different. And we are very, like, it is exciting to participate,
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like, in everyday life of this school. And one more thing. Yeah, we are really very,
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we appreciate the hospitality of this school. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I have
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to say that we haven't been to Turin yet, but Jose and I went to Finland already, and the hospitality
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was very nice, and we had a very good time there. So thank you very much, too. So we can say the
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same words for you. Thank you.
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