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Muchas gracias. Y vamos con la primera ponencia, una ponencia internacional que inaugura esta tarde. Bueno, pues quizá todos hemos en algún momento pensado cómo llegar a ese punto óptimo, álgido, máximo, bueno, pues en todo lo que tiene que ver con el aprendizaje online.
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Y nuestro siguiente invitado, el primer invitado de la tarde, va a ofrecernos algunas claves, algunas pautas que quizá pueden ayudarnos a comprender cómo podemos llegar a ese punto óptimo dentro del aprendizaje online.
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Él es Stephen Downes, es investigador senior en el Centro de Investigación de Tecnologías Digitales del Consejo Nacional de Investigación de Canadá
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y está especializado en investigar medios de instrucción y tecnología de aprendizaje personal.
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Yo el otro día, viendo un poco la información que había alrededor de nuestro ponente, vi que estaba muy relacionado con la filosofía.
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Y la filosofía, la verdad, es que es una disciplina transversal muy interesante que nos ayuda a pensar y a ponerle pensamiento crítico a todo lo que hagamos. Adelante, Stephen.
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Voy a hablar de cómo hacer lo mejor de la aprendizaje en línea.
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Tengo un clic aquí, ¿dónde está?
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Y estoy seguro que cuando piensas en la aprendizaje en línea,
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algunas pensamientos vienen a tu mente.
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¿Qué piensas cuando piensas en la aprendizaje en línea?
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¿Qué te parece?
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Bueno, ¿te parece esto?
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Ah, no funcionó.
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Okay, that's an unintentional kind of...
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My video didn't go and my...
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Okay, they're going to fix it up in the booth.
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So that, is that typical of online learning for you?
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There we go.
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That's not my...
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There we go.
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Okay, we'll just pretend that the video is playing.
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Or...
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Oops.
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Oh, ok, video but no sound?
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Yeah.
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Does it look like that?
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The world's most boring lecture?
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Oh, come on.
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Ok, my clicker's not advancing my slides.
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All right, we're stuck.
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So we're going to have to just pretend that these slides are advancing.
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There we go.
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Yay.
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Does it look like this?
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People taking notes with a pen and paper while looking at their computer screen.
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Watching a teacher with their back to you writing on a whiteboard.
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Does that look familiar?
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Or does it look like this?
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Your typical, boring learning management system with a choice of 42 courses.
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Each course with 15 modules.
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Each module with 15 sections to do.
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and you're on course number one, module number one, section number two?
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Does it look like this?
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With the step-by-step progression through gaining attention,
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through expressing the learning objectives,
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through presenting the content,
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all the way through to an online test with multiple choice questions.
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Does all that look familiar to you?
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Well, I've been in online learning for 35 years now.
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Hard to believe.
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It's hard for me to believe I'm still employed.
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I mean, you've seen my skills.
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My learning looks like this.
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It does not look like those typical online courses.
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It's very different.
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And you might say, well, sure, but does it work?
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Well, I'm here.
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Right? I'm giving you a talk. Somebody has just said some very nice things about me in Spanish, which I did not completely understand, but I did hear the word Maximo.
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I've given lectures all over the world. I've published articles. Most of what I know about online learning I learned myself.
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When I started, there were no courses or programs on online learning. We invented it from scratch.
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So yeah, it works
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So what's different
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About the way I've learned online
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And that horrible mess you just saw
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Well, because everyone loves lists
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I've reduced it to five major points
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Just for convenience
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It's not like these are the five holy points of online learning
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But it's just a device
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For being able to talk about it
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Hacking my traditional schooling
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It's about what I want to do
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It's about process, not content
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It's about learning from experts, really
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And finally about finding my own voice
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And I'm hoping in between those five
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You can see your own point number six, point number seven, whatever
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So, first of all, hacking my traditional schooling
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Esto puede sorprender a ustedes. No era un estudiante típico en la escuela. No, en realidad. En el 5 de grado, creé mi propia revista, usé una máquina de mimeografía, dibujé las imágenes de mano, porque no sabía mucho sobre la fotografía.
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En mis primeras edades, aprendí a desarrollar mis propias fotos.
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En la escuela, definí mis propios proyectos que eran diferentes de los que me asignaron los maestros.
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En el grado 11, un grupo de nosotros superó el departamento de ciencias sociales en una revolución.
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Nos llamamos el Movimiento para la Organización Autocrática, MAU.
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En la universidad, una vez más, estaba trabajando en las noticias de estudiantes y, en realidad, en la universidad,
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pasé la mayor parte de mi tiempo trabajando en la noticia de estudiantes y un poco de tiempo asistiendo a clases.
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En la escuela de graduación, organizé protestas contra el gobierno para apoyar el financiamiento de la escuela.
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As a teacher, I would give assignments, which I hated to do, but I would allow students to give me their responses in any medium whatsoever.
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I even told them, if you can put your assignment on a cube, hand me in a cube.
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I didn't know what I would get. I got a little of everything.
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And as a researcher, which is what I've been doing for the last 21 years, I threw out the rule book on research and developed my own path.
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So, I've done these things differently.
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And how did that happen?
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It worked out.
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Well, this is the second video.
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I'm almost afraid.
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So, I'll just pretend we're playing.
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And the young woman speaking there to TED Talk
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basically defines hacking.
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y dice que los hackers son la gente que desafía y cambia el sistema
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para hacer que funcione de manera diferente, para hacer que funcione mejor.
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Y esa es la mentalidad que siempre he tenido como estudiante, como profesor y como investigador.
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Ok, funciona, pero todavía no hay sonido.
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Y ahora mi cañón no funciona de nuevo.
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¿Podrías avanzar los slides uno, por favor?
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Y veremos si eso sucede.
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Otro ejemplo es un artículo, la referencia está en el siguiente slide, sobre la siguiente generación de estudiantes.
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La siguiente generación de estudiantes.
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El descanso económico, dice el artículo, ha creado una generación de niños que solo tratan de detenerme.
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kids
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determined to get the knowledge they need
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for success
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even if it comes from outside
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the traditional educational framework
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now
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as teachers I want you to think about
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that for a second
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your students
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who you have so much
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difficulty motivating to do
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anything in your class
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as soon as they get out of your class
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they go home, they get on the computer
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they start learning things
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Piensa en eso, porque eso es lo que está sucediendo.
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Otro ejemplo, algo llamado edupunk,
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soñado por un amigo mío llamado Jim Groom,
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y es la idea de la educación no como una orquestra
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bien planeada de escritos y rutinas y contenido y presentación,
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but four people
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just getting together
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can barely use the instruments
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they're playing, do not
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actually know how to sing
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and yet still making music
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only
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in education
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and you might be thinking, none of this can possibly
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work and yet it does
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some people say
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well, yeah but look at you
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you're special
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and I think, yeah, nice
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no, they say
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Puedes enseñarte a ti mismo, tienes esta habilidad especial que te permite enseñarte a ti mismo, pero la mayoría de las personas no pueden hacer eso, la mayoría de las personas necesitan dirección, a la que yo digo, no, eso no es verdad.
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Everybody can manage their own learning
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And indeed, mostly, everybody does
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Once they get outside school
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They teach themselves to drive
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They teach themselves how to play video games
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They learn how to, oh, I don't know
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Make food in the kitchen
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Buy groceries at the grocery store
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All kinds of things
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They learn to speak before they even get to school
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No, no son solo personas especiales las que pueden aprender para crear su propia aprendizaje.
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Y ese es un punto muy importante.
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Entonces, como profesores, ¿qué valoráis en vuestros estudiantes?
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¿Cuestiones para preguntar?
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¿Encorrida la creatividad?
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¿Aloja a los estudiantes a cambiar las reglas?
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No solo las reglas fáciles, sino las reglas realmente importantes.
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¿Pueden los estudiantes encontrar sus propios recursos en lugar de los que les están ofreciendo en la clase?
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¿Respetan, y quiero decir, realmente respetan las opiniones de sus estudiantes, no importa a qué estudiante les están dando?
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¿Modelan o demostran innovación y creatividad en su clase?
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Do you recognize in your classroom multiple points of view, multiple perspectives, even on the points on which there can be no debate, no dispute?
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Do your students want to be like you?
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As you can probably gather from the leading questions that I'm asking, the answer should be yes,
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but I think maybe
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it might not be
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and that's part of what I'm trying
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to speak to you about today
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ok, I just came up with this yesterday
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I don't know if this is a good slogan
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you can tell me
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it takes just
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one key to open
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a door, and you can be
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that key if you want to be
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alright, audience
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feedback segment, is that
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a good slogan or should I abandon
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it here
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¿Buen slogan? Abandonar aquí. Volumes de participación flotando a través de la habitación.
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Bien, ese es el descanso. Eso es simplemente hackar el sistema de educación tradicional.
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¿Qué tal si es sobre lo que quiero hacer?
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Imagine telling your students
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that today's lesson will be
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whatever you want to do
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and it's an interesting
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problem because
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for many students I don't mean
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video games
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I look back
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on my own experience
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even in college and university
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I personally
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was never actually
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interested in learning
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content
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I know that there were things that teachers were trying very hard to get me to remember.
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And that was never important to me.
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For me, and maybe I'm selfish, but for me, learning was always about whatever I wanted to do.
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What sort of things I wanted to do.
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Let me expand on that a little bit.
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I studied trigonometry
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I think it was four times
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same lessons
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first time was in high school
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I studied trigonometry
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and it went in here and out here
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and I forgot it the next day
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I barely passed
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then I was in a computer science program
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first year only
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in college I studied trigonometry
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in, out, barely past
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I went to university
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and they said
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you need remedial math
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and one of the things you have to study
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is trigonometry
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so I studied trigonometry
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yet again
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in, out, barely past
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get the picture
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but on my own time
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I had bought a computer
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I had bought a copy
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of Fortran
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or sorry, Borland
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Turbo C
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installed it, that's for
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if you don't know, that's a tool that
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allows you to write software programs
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I wanted to build the ultimate
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Star Trek game
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I still do
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some things never leave you
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and one of the things
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I wanted to do
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in my ultimate Star Trek game
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is rotate a cube
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on the screen
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just like the Borg
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you know what I needed
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in order to learn how to rotate a cube
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on a screen
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trigonometry
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so I found
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my old trigonometry
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textbook, it was red
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opened it up
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to the first page of trigonometry
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sat down
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figured out the equations that I needed, coded the equations,
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and successfully rotated a cube on a computer screen.
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It's about what I wanted to do, not about what somebody wanted me to learn.
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That was an experience that said a lot to me, and it's an example I've used over the years.
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There's an educational philosophy by a guy called Seymour Papert, pictured there.
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He's the one in the picture, not the one drawing the picture.
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I think that's a turtle.
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Constructionism is basically the idea that you learn by creating things,
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by making things, by constructing things.
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Here's an example where students are learning robotics
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by learning how to program robots made out of Legos.
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It's interesting.
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You take something like Legos,
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You put it in a pile in the middle of the floor and you put your kids beside the pile of Legos and they start making things, just on their own.
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You don't even need to motivate them, they just do it.
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So Papert said, this sort of thing that people really like to do is also really helpful for helping people learn.
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So there's a whole philosophy behind the idea of making things in school.
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Y estoy seguro de que lo han visto en otras presentaciones.
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Había alguien hablando, estaba hablando con ella antes sobre Minecraft.
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Y Minecraft es una herramienta para hacer cosas.
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Es como un regalo de reversión, un regalo de reversión digital.
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Ahora, tomemos eso un paso más lejos.
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Ahora, hay una charla sobre aplicar esto más ampliamente. Imagina preguntar a un estudiante prospectivo, no, ¿qué desea estudiar? ¿Qué temas desea estudiar?
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Pero, en realidad, ¿qué te gustaría hacer? ¿Qué te gustaría poder hacer? Algunas respuestas posibles.
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This is from the paper that I quote here.
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I would like to make a porcelain cup.
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I would like to make a cure for cancer.
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I would like to make someone feel less anxious and alone.
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I would like to make a computer game.
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I would like to make a solution to homelessness in my town.
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All of the different answers that people might give.
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And, you know, you sort of sit there and you think,
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Bueno, el currículum no puede possibly encompass all of that, and it's true.
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And it's funny, isn't it?
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We take a traditional curriculum and impose that instead of having people make the things that they want to make.
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It's funny.
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What do I do?
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Well, my job as a researcher, and actually every job that I've ever had, really is four kinds of making things.
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I make philosophy, I make computer programs, I make educational programs, I'll talk about that in a little bit,
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and I make journalism, it's kind of awkward, I make newspapers and articles and newsletters and things like that.
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My work focuses around on what I make, not what I know, not my knowledge.
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Si no pudiera hacer una presentación para ustedes, probablemente no hubiera sido invitado a hablar.
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No importa lo inteligente que fuera, si no pudiera hacer algo con ello, no importaría lo que sabía.
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Para mí, mi trabajo, mi aprendizaje, mi investigación son inseparables de mi creación.
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Y creo que eso es probablemente verdad, si piensas en ello, para la mayoría de las personas.
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¿Qué haces en tu vida, en tu vida profesional y en tu vida personal?
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¿Sitas ahí y sabes cosas?
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Esto es yo sabiendo cosas.
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Ok, suficiente sabiendo.
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Ayer hice una colección de fotografías de Madrid.
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Como dices, es todo lo mismo para mí.
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Taking photos, making a presentation, doing research, writing a computer program, it's all the same thing.
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Now, while I'm talking here, I just want to give attention to and say thank you to the sign language interpreter,
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whose work I very much appreciate as part of this presentation. Thank you.
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Now, you're probably thinking, wait a second, you promised to talk about online learning.
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and we haven't had
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anything about online learning so far
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and
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maybe you're beginning to feel a bit
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cheated
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I explained to
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the organizers, I could have come in here
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and started talking about
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artificial intelligence and
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blockchain
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maybe a little robotics for fun
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perhaps some
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federated communication systems
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probablemente no hubiera sido muy relevante.
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Pero no hubiera sido el punto principal de todos.
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Todo esto que he estado hablando hasta ahora
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es sobre el aprendizaje online.
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Y para mí, el gran cambio que ocurrió
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cuando fui desde el aprendizaje tradicional,
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incluso el aprendizaje tradicional que estaba hackeando todo el tiempo
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al aprendizaje online, es que todas estas cosas,
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Hacking, learning, making things became much easier, much more possible.
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They became real, live, viable possibilities for me.
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And in online learning, it's about what we can do online.
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It doesn't matter what we do.
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Take a picture, make a presentation, write a blog post, design a game.
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Sorry, that was a challenge for her.
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It doesn't matter.
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Oh, that kind of leaves us in a hard place to go, right?
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If it's anything, then what is it?
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Oh, that's not how that slide should look.
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Oh, I guess it is.
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I have another copy running on my computer here.
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Just to check them to be sure.
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Okay.
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Oh yeah, that is how it's supposed to look.
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Never mind.
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I also sometimes talk to myself
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sometimes in not the best situation
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ok
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this is the third section of the talk
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we're at 4.51
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I've got 25 minutes to go
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unless I'm wrong
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if I'm wrong tell me
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because all I've got up here are zeros
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ok
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this is the most important part of the talk
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The secret weapons for the online learner are logic and language
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For those of you working in language or working in bilingual schools
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That should be very welcome news
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But it's true
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And I'll explain what I mean
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By logic, I mean four major areas of endeavor
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descripción
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which might include
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talking about properties
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or relations of things
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or even values of things
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definition
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maybe definite descriptions
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maybe ostensive definitions
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the domain of a definition
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argument
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which is convincing
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somebody that something is true
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maybe inductive
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arguments, deductive arguments
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or the cornerstone of
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explanations, abductive arguments
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and finally
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explanation
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these four things
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are at the core
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of all of logic
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if you know how to do all these
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four things and do them at an advanced level
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you have a secret
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weapon, interesting
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it's not on the curriculum
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well math is on the curriculum
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oh it didn't advance
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There we go. I'm sorry about that.
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So there are the four.
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Description, definition, argument, and explanation.
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Math is there in its proper place as part of logic.
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Then language.
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And, you know, I mean, I could define language in various different ways.
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I did it this way.
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sintax
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not just
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general principles
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or rules of grammar
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but anything that involves
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patterns, rules, similarities
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generalizations
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finding the structure of things
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semantics
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not just truth
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although truth matters
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but meaning, values
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plausibility
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relevance
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whoops, too far
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too fast, too long
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use
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how we
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apply things
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what the utility of a thing is
00:28:22
cases where knowledge
00:28:26
is used and then finally context
00:28:28
the environment
00:28:30
in which whatever it is we're doing
00:28:31
takes place
00:28:33
these are the secret weapons
00:28:34
these
00:28:36
eight elements all together
00:28:38
and we can organize them and combine
00:28:41
them differently, it doesn't matter
00:28:43
or how we organize them.
00:28:45
These form the process,
00:28:47
not the content.
00:28:50
These are the secret weapons
00:28:53
for the online learner.
00:28:55
This is what helps them succeed
00:28:56
as an online learner
00:28:59
and this is what they learn
00:29:01
from learning online.
00:29:03
I could spend the next year
00:29:08
talking about that.
00:29:10
Instead, I'll point you to something
00:29:12
I did a few years ago.
00:29:14
llamado
00:29:16
Speaking in Lolcats
00:29:18
porque cuando piensas
00:29:20
sobre estas ocho cosas
00:29:22
las encontrarás en todos lados
00:29:24
en todos lados que mires
00:29:26
si vas a internet
00:29:27
ves memes en internet
00:29:30
o bailes de TikTok
00:29:32
no bailaré, está bien
00:29:33
estos son
00:29:35
estos patrones
00:29:38
estas armas secretas
00:29:40
que se usan naturalmente
00:29:41
por los estudiantes, naturalmente por la gente
00:29:43
without being trained how to do them.
00:29:46
It's funny.
00:29:49
A meme, like a lolcat, for example,
00:29:52
is a combination of a picture
00:29:55
and some words organized in a special way.
00:29:57
And there's a link there, how to speak lolcat.
00:30:02
It's a whole system of speaking
00:30:06
that people developed on their own.
00:30:09
And you can learn about it following that link.
00:30:11
These are the tools, these eight things, of learning when the content does not matter.
00:30:14
So if it doesn't matter what you want to do, these are the things that will help you do what you want to do.
00:30:25
They're also the tools of science and research as well.
00:30:33
They form the core of human cognitive processes.
00:30:38
And I think we recognize that. I think that as teachers we know how important these things are, even though it's really hard to sit students in a room for eight hours and teach them about logic and argument and mathematics and writing and grammar and stuff like that.
00:30:44
Espera un momento, ¿yo solo dije que el contenido no importa? Lo dije, y lo quiero decir. El contenido no importa. Ahora, no hay un pequeño número de personas que dicen, no, no, no, no, tienes que tener conocimiento de contenido. No puedes aprender a hacer nada sin conocimiento de contenido.
00:31:06
Bueno, necesitas algún contenido. Si estás hablando con un amigo, vas a estar hablando de algo, no de nada, pero no importa lo que estés hablando, todavía estás usando las reglas de la lengua, las reglas de la lógica, etc.
00:31:34
Lo que es importante aquí, y lo que encontramos, especialmente en el mundo digital de hoy, es que el contenido está cambiando todo el tiempo.
00:31:56
Pueden pensar que es realmente importante que sus estudiantes aprendan sobre el Turbo C de Borland.
00:32:05
Fue clave para mí en aprender a programar, pero aquí estoy hoy. ¿Cuántos de ustedes han escuchado de Turbo C de Borland?
00:32:13
1, 2, 3, 4, 5
00:32:22
bien para ustedes
00:32:30
su escuela antigua
00:32:32
para el resto
00:32:36
nadie aprende Turbo C
00:32:38
más
00:32:41
imagínense en mi slide
00:32:41
cuántos de ustedes reconocen lo que es
00:32:43
eso es lo que me enseñaron
00:32:45
fue la planeta Pluto
00:32:50
my favorite planet
00:32:54
still a planet
00:32:57
dang it
00:32:59
it doesn't matter which content
00:33:00
you're using
00:33:06
it doesn't matter whether you're talking
00:33:07
about this subject area
00:33:10
that subject area
00:33:12
whether it's biochemistry or physics
00:33:13
or how to cook a pot roast
00:33:16
it doesn't matter
00:33:18
the same secrets
00:33:20
still apply
00:33:22
the structure, the patterns
00:33:24
the meaning, the value.
00:33:26
Think about pot roast.
00:33:28
You don't usually think about pot roast.
00:33:29
It's a traditional Canadian dish.
00:33:31
It's a lovely dish.
00:33:34
You follow a recipe,
00:33:36
which is a list of operations
00:33:38
or rules or methods.
00:33:40
So if you're good at following rules
00:33:43
or instructions or methods,
00:33:45
you can actually successfully cook a pot roast
00:33:47
without ever having done it before
00:33:49
or even been shown how to do it.
00:33:51
And it's also about values. Why would you want to cook a pot roast? When is it appropriate to cook a pot roast?
00:33:56
Hint, probably on a Sunday, not on a hot summer day.
00:34:02
The rules of logic and language still apply.
00:34:08
And that is key to learning online.
00:34:12
Online, you can learn about anything, instantly.
00:34:15
When I was preparing these slides, and I prepared them in my hotel room yesterday,
00:34:21
because I like to do things ahead of time,
00:34:29
I learned how to, like normally you see Pluto, it's in space, and space is black.
00:34:33
But then I would have had a big black square on my slide and it would have looked ugly.
00:34:40
So I looked up how to remove the black and convert it to white.
00:34:45
I looked it up, figured it out, actually did this in about 30 seconds.
00:34:49
Now, I could have been taught in the classroom, I suppose.
00:34:57
They could have done a full class session on changing your background,
00:35:00
but I could learn it online in 30 seconds.
00:35:04
When I came here today, I took a taxi.
00:35:08
Yeah, I know, luxury.
00:35:11
I got into the taxi.
00:35:15
The driver asked me, where are you going?
00:35:17
He asked me in Spanish.
00:35:19
I didn't understand, but I figured that's what he was asking me.
00:35:21
And I said, Iskulia, what was it, Iskulia Eskala, am I close?
00:35:25
Sorry? That's it.
00:35:36
Oh, right, Suedad, yes.
00:35:41
So anyhow, I said it, and he didn't understand me, so I told him.
00:35:43
He took out his phone, he said into his phone, Suedad Eskala.
00:35:49
su teléfono le dio direcciones
00:35:54
sobre dónde encontrarlo y dónde dejarlo
00:35:58
y eso es muy diferente
00:36:00
de conducir un taxi incluso 10 años atrás
00:36:04
cuando tenías que tener una mapa en tu cabeza
00:36:06
de dónde estaba todo
00:36:09
ahora no necesitas saber, solo pones tu teléfono
00:36:10
ahora la gente puede decir, bueno, sí
00:36:14
pero eso significa que no sabes dónde está todo
00:36:16
sí, eso es verdad
00:36:21
and what if your phone breaks?
00:36:22
Well, if it breaks on your first day, you're in trouble.
00:36:27
You admit that.
00:36:30
But after you've been using your phone to find places for a while,
00:36:32
you begin to recognize where they are
00:36:36
and you don't need to look them up on the phone anymore.
00:36:39
I mean, how many times do you have to look Prado up on your phone?
00:36:43
You'll probably figure out where it is by now.
00:36:48
You don't have to be taught
00:36:50
There's no class
00:36:53
Where is Prado?
00:36:55
You learn it
00:36:57
By using the tool
00:36:59
That helps you find out
00:37:01
What it is in the course
00:37:03
Of doing something
00:37:05
And that's how we learn online
00:37:06
Very different
00:37:09
Put down all my tools
00:37:12
It's the
00:37:16
Again another one of these things I'm trying
00:37:20
The Pragmatic
00:37:22
Pièce de Résistance
00:37:24
That's the token French
00:37:26
for this session
00:37:28
Nobody cares about what you know
00:37:29
Trust me
00:37:32
They care about what you can do
00:37:34
what you can make
00:37:37
and to a lesser extent what you did
00:37:38
but mostly it's about what can you do
00:37:40
now and in the future
00:37:43
So that brings us to experts
00:37:44
Learning from experts
00:37:49
and this is one of the big
00:37:52
Advantages of learning online is that we
00:37:54
Actually can learn from experts
00:37:56
It's a wonderful thing
00:37:59
But the problem is
00:38:01
And I know this
00:38:03
Experts are terrible teachers
00:38:04
That's an expert
00:38:07
Teaching advanced physics
00:38:09
How fun does that look
00:38:10
They don't even
00:38:12
Speak the same language you do
00:38:14
And I'm not talking about English
00:38:17
French or Spanish
00:38:19
I'm talking about, in this case
00:38:20
the advanced language of physics,
00:38:23
tensors, vector spaces, etc.
00:38:26
Language that, especially as a beginner,
00:38:30
you don't know.
00:38:32
But the expert doesn't know you don't know that,
00:38:34
and even if he did, he wouldn't care.
00:38:37
And worse, the expert probably doesn't want to teach you anyways.
00:38:40
A physics professor became a physics professor
00:38:45
because they wanted to do physics,
00:38:48
not because they wanted to teach.
00:38:50
So, experts are terrible teachers.
00:38:52
Tony Bates says, well, we should teach all the university professors to be better teachers.
00:38:56
I'm not sure that's the best advice.
00:39:01
So, what are experts good for?
00:39:05
Well, experts are models of best practice.
00:39:09
In fact, whatever an expert does is by definition best practice, right?
00:39:15
Most of their knowledge, though, cannot be found in a book.
00:39:19
Michael Polanyi calls that tacit knowledge, or sometimes personal knowledge.
00:39:26
And experts don't talk mostly to you and me.
00:39:33
They talk to each other.
00:39:38
They form what are called communities of practice.
00:39:40
Y se puede mirar a Etienne Wenger y otros sobre el concepto de la comunidad de práctica.
00:39:44
Es así que aprenden en línea.
00:39:51
Un físico nuclear no va a aprender sobre físicos nucleares avanzados en la clase.
00:39:54
Hablan con otros físicos nucleares en sus comunidades.
00:40:02
Lo que la tecnología digital y el aprendizaje online nos permite hacer es ser parte de estas comunidades de práctica, o como a veces los llaman, comunidades digitales distribuidas de práctica.
00:40:07
Entonces, los expertos son modelos para el aprendizaje, pero no enseñan, sino que hacen.
00:40:21
Piense en eso.
00:40:37
Así es como los expertos aprenden.
00:40:39
Pueden hacer labios o workshops, pueden ofrecer aprendizajes o internos.
00:40:42
Pueden diseñar simulaciones y juegos.
00:40:50
They might take part, they generally take part in real world projects, you know, trying to help the environment, trying to cure COVID, trying to prevent a nuclear reactor from melting down, trying to find out who the fastest person was to run a race.
00:40:53
I mean, there are experts everywhere, all over the place, doing all kinds of things.
00:41:14
It's not just, you know, advanced science.
00:41:17
One of the great things about cable television in my country now
00:41:20
is that we're learning that there are experts in every single discipline.
00:41:24
Cooking, yes. Plumbing, yes. Woodworking, yes.
00:41:28
Experts everywhere.
00:41:32
And this is how they teach each other.
00:41:33
This is the model for us to know how to teach online, to teach digitally.
00:41:37
Experts form their communities.
00:41:45
forman una pequeña comunidad
00:41:47
en el centro.
00:41:49
Alrededor de ellos
00:41:52
hay una comunidad profesional más amplia
00:41:53
y ellos hablan con los expertos
00:41:54
y los expertos hablan con ellos.
00:41:58
Al lado de eso,
00:42:00
en una comunidad aún más grande
00:42:01
están los estudiantes.
00:42:03
La mayoría de los estudiantes
00:42:05
solo están viendo lo que está pasando.
00:42:07
Están viendo a los expertos
00:42:09
modelar su práctica.
00:42:11
Están viendo al famoso jugador de darts
00:42:13
jugar darts.
00:42:15
and they're thinking to themselves
00:42:16
if they want to be a dart player
00:42:18
I want to learn to play darts
00:42:19
I'm going to do what Jockey Wilson does
00:42:21
or Lionel Messi
00:42:23
or whoever
00:42:26
but they're following
00:42:27
sorry I had to throw a Messi reference in there
00:42:28
something I made with my friend George Siemens
00:42:33
it's about what you make
00:42:40
is a theory called connectivism
00:42:42
there are some references there
00:42:43
that you can look at
00:42:45
but it's all about
00:42:48
how people learn from each other
00:42:49
en estas comunidades digitales en línea, no clases o cursos, sino comunidades.
00:42:52
También ayudé con el concepto de entornos de aprendizaje personal.
00:43:00
Y piensa en esto como un concepto.
00:43:07
Piensa en ti mismo como el centro de una red de aprendizaje,
00:43:10
y ahí están todos esos expertos y todas esas disciplinas en las que te interesas.
00:43:15
Y te unes a esas comunidades y te sigues a esas comunidades
00:43:19
and that's how you begin to learn.
00:43:23
You see the experts in your
00:43:26
profession, whoever they are,
00:43:28
and you might not know who
00:43:30
they are at first, modeling
00:43:32
best practice and learning.
00:43:34
And that's what George and I were trying to do.
00:43:35
So, another
00:43:39
thing we made, we made
00:43:40
a MOOC.
00:43:42
Oops, I went one too far.
00:43:44
There we go. A MOOC
00:43:46
was a model of how
00:43:50
communities make their own learning.
00:43:51
So, what we did is we made a learning environment, a digital learning environment, where people could talk to each other.
00:43:54
It was massive. We had lots of people, thousands of people come join us.
00:44:02
It was open to everyone, very important.
00:44:08
It was all online, and yeah, it was a course, but we denied it was a course, it was an experience.
00:44:11
Okay, no, we said it was a course, but...
00:44:19
Así que ahora hay estos MOOCs de Udacity y FutureLearn y otros que hacen aprendizaje tradicional en línea y ves el enfoque tradicional en el contenido y en el asesoramiento y en cosas como aprendizaje behavioral, aprendizaje cognitivo, incluso aprendizaje constructivo, pero se trata de estas clases formales, instrucciones formales, etc.
00:44:21
Our MOOCs were completely different. Our MOOCs for content used open educational resources or even better, stuff that was created by the people in the course.
00:44:51
It was flexible and distributed. For assessment, we didn't do assessments because the idea was to tell people what you get out of the course is your assessment.
00:45:08
If you think you got out of the course what you wanted, then you passed.
00:45:21
And you're sitting there thinking, well, that's a stupid way of assessing people.
00:45:27
Well, it's not about, for us, it was not about us assessing them.
00:45:31
It was about them assessing themselves.
00:45:36
And you might think, well, how can you responsibly have people assess themselves?
00:45:40
Well, if somebody's trying to do something, assessment becomes easy.
00:45:45
Either they were successful in doing it
00:45:51
or they were unsuccessful for some reason
00:45:54
and they learned from that and tried again.
00:45:57
And you can tell, did they succeed or not?
00:46:00
For a programmer, it's does the programming run
00:46:02
and does it add 2 plus 2 and get 4, not 17.
00:46:05
If it gets 17, you did not succeed.
00:46:10
So, what sort of model are you offering to your students?
00:46:13
Are you offering a bridge through this community to an expert?
00:46:26
Or are you posing as one?
00:46:33
That's a hard question to ask a group of teachers, isn't it?
00:46:36
Maybe I shouldn't, I don't know.
00:46:40
This is another one of these slides, maybe I should have run it, maybe I shouldn't run it.
00:46:43
but I think it's an important concept.
00:46:47
Okay, audience feedback time.
00:46:51
Use this slide again in the future?
00:46:53
Don't use it ever again?
00:47:00
Eh, small nod on the yes side, okay.
00:47:04
Finally, five, finding my own voice.
00:47:10
The key to learning isn't about finding courses
00:47:13
or lessons or videos or whatever.
00:47:17
The key is to use all of these
00:47:19
and anything else you can find
00:47:22
to create your own learning, your own thing online.
00:47:23
I have a theory about learning.
00:47:29
It's a very simple theory.
00:47:33
I call it Downs' Theory of Learning,
00:47:35
which is funny because it's not really a theory
00:47:38
and it's not invented by me.
00:47:40
To teach is to model and demonstrate.
00:47:42
That is, in fact, what the experts are doing.
00:47:44
To learn is to practice and reflect.
00:47:47
and our role as teachers
00:47:50
is to somehow join these two things together
00:47:53
so it's not about us teaching courses
00:47:56
it's about us making connections
00:47:59
and that's what digital technology lets us do
00:48:02
how do we find that community
00:48:05
or best of all go out
00:48:08
join a community
00:48:10
look for existing communities
00:48:12
Facebook, Reddit, Meetup, Stack Overflow, wherever
00:48:14
How do you do that?
00:48:18
Well, just ask a question of Google, be as specific as possible.
00:48:21
Like, how do I fix a derailleur, not cycling?
00:48:28
And you will find the community.
00:48:32
You'll find the community by the language they speak.
00:48:33
And then participate in the community.
00:48:39
And you participate not by jumping in and being all expert on day one.
00:48:42
no, participas
00:48:47
y te doy un poco de un modelo
00:48:50
lee, comparte, pide y luego construye
00:48:52
siga lo que la comunidad está haciendo
00:48:55
comparte lo que estás haciendo
00:48:57
luego puedes empezar a pedir preguntas y consejos
00:48:59
y finalmente puedes empezar a construir la comunidad
00:49:02
en lugar de ofrecer lecciones digitales
00:49:04
como instructores, como maestros
00:49:10
deberías demostrar
00:49:13
cómo aprendes
00:49:16
sobre algo en línea.
00:49:17
Esto funciona muy bien, especialmente
00:49:19
si no eres muy bueno en ello.
00:49:21
Mostrále a la gente el proceso.
00:49:23
Modelar el buen aprendizaje.
00:49:25
Modelar tu uso de esos
00:49:27
ocho secretos.
00:49:29
¿Aún no estás seguro?
00:49:32
Ve a Google.
00:49:33
Te dirá cómo hacerlo.
00:49:35
Encuentra algunas cosas que te gustan.
00:49:38
Entonces, tal vez, blogue sobre ello.
00:49:40
¿No sabes cómo bloguear?
00:49:41
Ve a Google.
00:49:42
I'm Stephen Downs and I thank you very much for your kind attention.
00:49:44
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