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RADIO CORTES/ CBC EPISODE 4: THANKSGIVING TURKEY IS OVERRATED & THE TRUE ORIGINS OF THIS DAY - Contenido educativo

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Nuestros auxiliares Will de EEUU y Karol de Puerto Rico desmontan el mito no solo del protagonista del Día de Acción de Gracias, celebrado el último jueves del mes de noviembre, sino también del verdadero origen de esta celebración.

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hello everyone welcome back to episode two of radio cortez the english podcast uh my name's 00:00:02
will sheer and i'm joining the booth here today with carol rodriguez yeah hello welcome 00:00:38
uh we're back for week two and um we have a holiday coming up next week um not celebrated 00:00:44
here in spain sadly um but in the u.s and canada next week on thursday well by the time this comes 00:00:55
out it'll either be today or tomorrow for you yeah hopefully we'll see um but yeah thanksgiving 00:01:05
um sadly we're here in spain no well not sadly but sadly because we're missing out yeah we're 00:01:14
missing out on you know our family our friends some mashed potatoes some turkey some gravy 00:01:22
um but yeah what what's your favorite part about thanksgiving carol i mean i think it would be kind 00:01:29
of rude to say the food because for us as puerto ricans we're a lot of um we enjoy some of the 00:01:35
celebrations a lot so we try to just use the time to get together and have the whole big meeting 00:01:43
with all the family and going to not only one family but like multiple groups of families so 00:01:49
like my mom's family my dad's family and then you keep going you keep going from from place to place 00:01:55
and eating a big plate of everything as you should as yeah as you should and we have we have we do 00:02:00
try to serve turkey but most of the time it's like a what is it not pig what is it called pig 00:02:07
on a stick pig on a stick it's like um it's like a barbecue basically like a kebab situation no 00:02:14
more of like they put the pig on a oh oh oh like a rotisserie yeah yeah rotisserie situation yeah 00:02:23
yeah so they they spin the pig that's cooler than turkey yeah it tastes a lot better yeah turkey is 00:02:29
awful i will say um yeah just so all of you know you are not missing out on a little dry turkey 00:02:36
on thanksgiving i mean at least for my family white people are known for having awful awful 00:02:43
turkey and if my mom ever heard this she would cry but she won't so my turkey is always dry as 00:02:49
the desert and i usually take the red pieces of meat like the leg or the wing because they tend 00:02:56
to hold the moisture a little bit more but a little bit juicy turkey breast is like eating 00:03:04
tan bark like wood chips yeah it is like cardboard yeah it's really dry yeah so we don't i don't miss 00:03:10
out on no turkey but we have like a lot of side dishes nice we have like uh potato salad yum and 00:03:16
we have like uh pasta salad which is not pasta salad but that's how that's the closest thing 00:03:22
that i can describe it in english yeah um and we have the best desserts ever like what we have like 00:03:27
flan okay we make pumpkin flan whoa yeah and we make like coconut flan which is the one of the 00:03:32
basics and a whole bunch of other things that i just like everybody makes something really well 00:03:38
so when you go to each house there's like some something that you look forward to a signature 00:03:43
dish yeah yeah yeah okay that's cool how you guys kind of have your own like spin on it i like that 00:03:48
because like the food i mean it's nice to have all the things that you always have because it 00:03:53
kind of makes you reminisce of your childhood and all the other thanksgivings you had but 00:04:01
if for the meal we had pasta i think i'd be like happier than having turkey you know my family also 00:04:06
sometimes does this thing where like they get tired of turkey so we're like okay we're gonna 00:04:14
make pasta this year we're gonna make sushi this year it's just like so we all get have the activity 00:04:17
together because we all like cooking together a lot i don't like cooking but i like cooking with 00:04:22
my mom and my sister so that's something really fun i think aside from the food it's the fact that 00:04:25
we all are able to get together we have the days off for the most part so we just go either sometimes 00:04:31
they also like you buy food from a supermarket instead of like you making it yourself okay you 00:04:36
buy like a whole like oh like pre-made yeah like a kind of a buffet kind of thing yeah and that way 00:04:42
we always have a lot more time of just like chatting with each other and catching up nice 00:04:47
yeah yeah that's better i mean there's my mom's always so stressed out cooking on the day of i 00:04:51
mean i help her it's not just my mom of course but she's though she's like she organizes everything 00:04:57
and she has to set everything up and plan it's really it's like stressful she just spins around 00:05:02
the kitchen just runs around the kitchen in circles over and over until the meal is served 00:05:06
and then we we yell at her to sit down yeah yeah my mom used to do that she was like i'm not gonna 00:05:12
do this anymore i'm gonna spend money on it and we're gonna eat some good food it's still gonna 00:05:18
be good but we're i'm just not gonna make it i don't want to do that anymore um i mean you have 00:05:22
to get up at like 7 a.m to start the turkey and everything else i mean you can kind of 00:05:26
you can kind of have other people bring the sides which is nice you can have someone bring 00:05:31
mashed potatoes someone bring gravy someone bring stuffing and then the house that hosts 00:05:37
usually makes the big yeah yeah that's what we usually do as well yeah so like nobody has to 00:05:42
do everything we all just like are in charge of bringing our own signature dish um so we kind of 00:05:48
when we go to our house we're like oh we have a little bit of this we have a little bit of this 00:05:53
speaking of that my my grandma one year so she always makes her famous pumpkin pie we wait all 00:05:56
year for it of course um she makes it uh in a very special pie dish that was her mom's pie dish 00:06:05
so my great-grandmother um we called her gg for great-grandma oh that's so cute yeah and um 00:06:15
so one year we were hosting thanksgiving at my house and my grandma and grandpa got there my dad 00:06:26
was like will go outside help them with whatever they have to bring in um so i go out 00:06:34
my grandma emmy hands me the pumpkin pie and is like okay bring this in and i'm like okay great 00:06:39
blah blah blah how are you good to see you i missed you um you know and we're walking up 00:06:47
the stairs to my front door and i tripped with the pie in my hand and fell straight down onto 00:06:53
my face onto the brick on my front porch and the pie dish went flying as well onto the brick on my 00:07:04
front porch and it shattered into a million pieces yeah this fairly family heirloom of a pie 00:07:12
dish i shattered on the ground in front of my whole family as well so like my grandma was 00:07:21
so sad and my mom was so sad and they were trying not to be upset with me because it was 00:07:28
thanksgiving but at the same time like i just destroyed this historical artifact of my family 00:07:36
but it was an accident of course it wasn't your fault yeah i mean but of course like i 00:07:42
feel bad of course that happened to me on thanksgiving day who else um but yeah there's 00:07:48
there's always you know some drama at thanksgiving yeah i think thanksgiving is a place for drama 00:07:55
like it just happens because everybody's together yeah so then everybody who sometimes doesn't get 00:08:02
along or something like there's always something going on but like i think we try to not let it 00:08:07
overshadow the whole like experience of being together yeah um do you have any really weird 00:08:14
dishes that you eat for thanksgiving like there's okay i have strong feelings about this okay we 00:08:19
have potato salad yeah which is we like made a certain way obviously everybody makes it their 00:08:26
own way but mainly it's just potatoes mayonnaise and like some other veggies maybe like bell 00:08:30
peppers or whatever and some people make it with apple in it like with chunks of little apples in 00:08:37
sorry i just gagged yeah absolutely hate every time somebody brought a potato salad with apple 00:08:44
in and we were like because you don't you can't even tell mayo apple and mayo and potato and like 00:08:51
you would look at it you can't tell the difference you can't see what an apple is it's the same white 00:08:57
as a potato it's a hidden so you would like eat it and we're like no out of nowhere it's so hateful 00:09:02
and then sometimes they would put olives in it which i understand it adds a flavor 00:09:09
but with the apple no no without the apple okay like take away the apple add olives okay 00:09:13
taste it okay but like take out i'm an olive hater i try olives especially being in spain 00:09:19
i try olives all the time you have to have olives i know and i try them but i still don't like them 00:09:24
i still try every single time okay good good that you're trying at least i know but not in my potato 00:09:29
salad not with mayo keep it separate like if you eat a whole bite of olive with a potato and mayo 00:09:34
in your mouth it's just like like an awful experience jarring probably very jarring yeah 00:09:40
yeah that's not as bad as mine our weird our weird dish is weird so i don't know where it came from 00:09:45
my grandma has always done this but she makes you have potato salad we have jello salad what 00:09:54
my face just dropped so i've actually made it with her because it's kind of like a joke for me 00:10:01
like growing up we've always had to eat this and we all like really don't like it so you're just 00:10:09
trying to make her feel well yeah she spends a lot of time on it every year and it comes okay 00:10:17
so we have we do we do four courses on thanksgiving no big deal that's a lot but okay before you go 00:10:22
saying that the first course is jello salad so what it is is everyone is served on a plate 00:10:29
on top of iceberg lettuce they get like a cube of oh man prepare yourself for this 00:10:37
it's green jello on the bottom and then in the middle it's 00:10:46
it's it's cream cheese mayo and pineapple chunks in the middle and then on top is a layer of red 00:10:52
jello and it's served and it's served on top of iceberg lettuce oh my god okay so just so you 00:11:03
know green jello is what green apple or lemon or lime i think it's lime i think it's lime and then 00:11:09
red jello is cherry flavored yes yes so we're talking about ew we're talking about lime 00:11:14
cream cheese and mayo cream cheese mayo pineapple don't forget about the pineapple sorry pineapple 00:11:21
chunks like the ones in the can that they put on top of pizza yeah yeah listen listen okay this 00:11:26
would be great separate but on top of us a green like a salad yeah like a big chunk or just like 00:11:32
cut up it's like a square the size of like your fist how do you eat that with a spoon yeah you 00:11:40
eat it with the spoon and my dad loves it so like either we always take a bite and we're like 00:11:45
i mean this is so good and we're just like about to throw up um and then we either pass it under 00:11:53
the table to my dog my dad oh he really likes it i don't know how my grandma hasn't noticed that he 00:12:03
eats like five every year but he really likes it or yeah we give it to the dog as well but you have 00:12:12
to be sneaky about giving it to the dog oh my god that's i i'm and i made it with her once actually 00:12:18
it took it took a really long time and what i really didn't enjoy about making it with her was 00:12:25
i didn't know this but there's also mayo there's mayonnaise in the jello as well oh my god only for 00:12:30
aesthetic purposes just to make it matte like it's not for taste at all they just want it to be like 00:12:38
it's the same shade yeah yeah so it's not shiny matte shiny matte okay yeah because that's gonna 00:12:44
affect the aesthetic i know for real it's gonna make it so much better no way yeah but i made it 00:12:52
for my friends for friendsgiving and they were all absolutely appalled but i made them i made 00:12:57
them try it by the way of course just so they know yeah what you have to live what i have to 00:13:02
go through every year that's insane i mean thinking about i can't believe the the experience 00:13:05
of thanksgiving evolved from like the history of it which is like trying to come together yeah 00:13:12
as a nation i mean i could yes you you probably don't know the the intricacies of it i mean no i 00:13:17
don't what i got taught is that it was just two groups of people the pilgrims yeah and the native 00:13:25
americans which they don't call native americans they call indians at that point yes but they are 00:13:30
called native americans yeah and they made this big dinner to try and like and put their differences 00:13:35
aside yeah and have that dinner but that's also i have recognized that's not true because yeah 00:13:41
that's a story that's like a fun tall tale that we were told as kids yeah to blind us from what 00:13:47
really happened so pilgrims pilgrims are is a fun word for colonizers pretty much the pilgrims came 00:13:53
from uh england um they didn't like what was going on there so they looked for a new place to go 00:14:03
they found america and i think they left england to set sail for the u.s in um like 00:14:12
what was it like 1500s i mean i was thinking more like seasons wise so they left in the 00:14:23
fall so like october they left yeah so they arrived in the u.s in like november is when 00:14:33
they dropped in the the east coast the northeast of the united states like massachusetts 00:14:42
new york somewhere around there i don't know yeah um but so the sale was over like 00:14:49
october november time so that was already a really bad time to set sail for the u.s so 00:14:59
two people died on the trip over okay um i think the mayflower is the name of the boat that they 00:15:08
took yeah i know that one it took like 140 people and two people died on the way there 00:15:16
okay but two babies were born on the way there as well oh so we're even yeah 00:15:23
we're even right now but they get to the northeast finally they land at like plymouth rock or 00:15:27
whatever it was and they get there and it's literally like the dead of winter and they're 00:15:36
and they're trying to move into this new place they're trying to build houses crops established 00:15:42
yeah like grow stuff hunt there's no food to hunt like everything is laying low for winter 00:15:48
yeah so like half of them died in that first winter and they were a little bit dumb yeah 00:15:56
and came in the wrong not not the right season to come i don't know if they weren't aware of 00:16:03
the seasons in the u.s but it's on the same hemisphere yeah um they were probably just a 00:16:08
bit confused i don't know or they didn't think it over well enough but they got there half of them 00:16:14
died and um they were in pretty bad sorts so what they told us in school when i was six seven years 00:16:19
old is that um they like were begging for help from the native americans of the wampanoag tribe 00:16:30
yeah is the name of their tribe and the leader of that tribe his name was squanto and the story 00:16:39
goes that the pilgrims the colonizers were starving dying so they asked the native people 00:16:45
for help and the native people showed them how to plant crops what plants or what crops to plant 00:16:53
when to harvest them blah blah blah and as a token of like their thanks for this help 00:17:01
the pilgrims hosted the native americans to this like big dinner big feast where they ate together 00:17:12
and kind of i mean the native americans and the pilgrims didn't get along very well back then 00:17:20
yeah the white people were scared of like these people with different colored skin and different 00:17:26
cultures than them so they often fought um but this was a case of them coming together 00:17:33
settling their differences and sitting down for a nice meal making peace for a little bit yeah 00:17:41
that's how they told us in school and in school when i was little we would have half of the class 00:17:46
dress up as pilgrims and half of the class oh my god yeah dress up and i know that's not very 00:17:54
controversial in this country but it's so controversial now yeah looking back yeah because 00:17:59
you're impersonating or trying to like take over somebody's culture that has nothing to do with 00:18:06
your or your coaches like you're making fun of them yeah i think does atletico madrid do that 00:18:10
too like dress up is i know there's one football team that wears some like native american head 00:18:17
dresses in spain which you know it's yeah it's not okay by our standards here it's different but 00:18:23
when i was little they had us make feather headdresses and wear them and like run around 00:18:29
school like making noises with our mouth like the native americans used to which is insane 00:18:35
very very bad but they told us this story back then later on in high school we would learn 00:18:39
that what really happened is the pilgrims took the native americans as slaves and they did this by 00:18:47
introducing new diseases to them on purpose like being like here here's a blanket i know it's cold 00:18:56
take this blanket and it would be covered in like measles or smallpox or something 00:19:03
uh-huh yeah and they would give that to the tribe and then the whole tribe or a lot of them would 00:19:07
die from these diseases oh my god that they would deliberately put on them um and then it weakened 00:19:13
them and then finally the pilgrims were able to pretty much force the native americans to plant 00:19:18
the crops for them and to do all this work for yeah they enslaved them yeah yeah oh my god i 00:19:27
didn't know the story so i mean you could think about it in i mean you could think about it in 00:19:33
either way but let's try and we try to wreck in the u.s now we try to recognize that you know 00:19:40
it's not it's not a great thing that we're celebrating it's not a good thing to be honest 00:19:46
that we're celebrating but we try to move away from that being the point of thanksgiving to more 00:19:51
of thanksgiving is about being with your family and being grateful for what you have yeah yeah 00:19:57
because it's been centuries or like at least a couple hundred years yeah and we've developed 00:20:02
traditions around it and we have developed the tradition of giving thanks on the day of 00:20:08
thanksgiving so it is still a tradition that we have and like a practice that we have that is 00:20:13
fairly good yeah it's just that after years of ignoring the negative or the actual origin of 00:20:18
the story that it's good to now think back on it recognize it as something that was not a fun 00:20:25
experience rather a very bad like basically a genocide um but then the practice that we have 00:20:31
created from then we can still use as something like okay we appreciate what has been happening 00:20:37
now and with our family etc it's trying to make something good out of something 00:20:43
not great yeah but we still recognize what happened back then now um and we know that 00:20:47
we weren't great in that situation i say we because that was probably my ancestors that 00:20:56
yeah yeah i mean they might be mine but mine are more spanish than than yours would be okay yeah 00:21:01
um i mean the spanish are not very uh the spanish colonizers are not like free of of guilt definitely 00:21:06
not no um but the way that we have always seen thanksgiving like we have this short explanation 00:21:13
of of thanksgiving which is apparently wrong like i and after when i was growing up we were taught 00:21:18
yeah pilgrims and indians whatever and then we continued to be to celebrate our culture yeah 00:21:25
Which is a mix of African, Spanish, and Indian, and Native American to us. 00:21:30
Yeah. 00:21:37
Of which we have no Native Americans anymore. 00:21:38
They were, yeah, that was a complete genocide by the Spanish colonizers. 00:21:42
But what we do to counteract that nowadays, especially during Thanksgiving, 00:21:46
and during this month in general, because this month, I think the 18th of November for us, 00:21:51
is the celebration of race in our country. 00:21:56
Cool. 00:21:59
so we celebrate our our african um roots our spanish roots and our native american roots 00:22:00
nice um and then we have because we have very um cultural very traditional dances and uh like 00:22:06
practices like that so we all dress up like jibaritas or jibaritos which are like people 00:22:13
from the from the like not the forest but like um we call them they're campesinos they're like 00:22:18
from the pueblos and the small villages that were around and we have our dances we i remember when 00:22:26
i was growing up um my grandma made me a costume for one of these events and they have really big 00:22:33
white skirts and like um off the shoulder shirts that are also white uh and then she made mine 00:22:39
into the puerto rican flag so the top was a was blue and white and then the bottom was red and 00:22:46
white that's sick it was so cool i still remember i was like in kindergarten nice um and i remember 00:22:51
we were making our dance we were dancing with our skirts and like waving them around to the music 00:22:56
and so i for me like thanksgiving is more of a cultural celebration yeah uh of the actual history 00:23:00
that they have provided to us as opposed to like the yeah the tech the fake textbook history that 00:23:08
we were yeah exactly so i feel like throughout time like we eventually give them a better 00:23:14
definition but it's also good to recognize because later on i did get taught that our 00:23:20
my Native American people were 00:23:25
murdered, right? It was a 00:23:27
mass genocide, and then we were all enslaved 00:23:29
and blah, blah, blah. 00:23:31
That's all part of my 00:23:33
culture, and 00:23:35
for us, we don't have 00:23:37
separation of white people 00:23:39
and the rest 00:23:41
of them, because to an extent 00:23:43
we have a little bit of blood of everybody 00:23:45
in that sense, in terms of the 00:23:47
race. 00:23:49
Which is not to say that I'm not white. 00:23:51
It's more of the culture that we 00:23:53
celebrate the things that we the habits and the traditions that we have we try to share to a big 00:23:55
degree yeah um so i think that's what thanksgiving has become for us it's an excuse for us to like 00:24:00
make the food that we have passed down through generations and to celebrate and practice the 00:24:07
the habits and the traditions that we have had throughout all of our lives yeah i wish i could 00:24:13
still be at the kids table i know they're so fun the kids table there's nothing like it it's 00:24:18
they have the best desserts they're doing like drawings yeah we're watching tv at the same time 00:24:24
yeah yeah yeah listening to music they're like this is the new song that i have yeah 00:24:30
yeah that's a good song always miss the kids table i think once my cousins and sisters start 00:24:34
having kids i'll go back to the kids table and sit with them yeah for sure for sure yeah yeah 00:24:42
i'll be that uncle yeah because we can't be like we're not we can't be infiltrating strange kids 00:24:46
you know what i mean like yeah this is like a friend's friend's kid i was like i'm not necessarily 00:24:52
gonna be at that friend's table no no no but if it's my cousin i was like come on now yeah for 00:24:56
sure like i'm the aunt that's in spain that comes back once in a while we're that we're that aunt 00:25:01
and uncle yeah yeah that's so fun which by the way maybe you should get your your mom and your 00:25:07
grandma a new like pie dish over here you know what like a ceramic one yeah yeah that's a good 00:25:12
idea maybe get it out of the raster or something yeah maybe my peace offering yeah if it ever makes 00:25:17
it back on delta airlines or whatever i fly you can put on your backpack but it's gonna weigh it 00:25:25
down yeah anyway i think it's an option anyways yeah um anything else to add about thanksgiving 00:25:30
um i mean aside from it's it's a fun time yeah it's a good time i wish i wish you all could 00:25:37
experience it i mean if you ever have the chance if you ever have a friend that's celebrates it 00:25:44
and they invite you please take the opportunity yeah it's so worth it it's so worth it if anything 00:25:51
and just just the way that thanksgiving work you get a plate and you get a little bit of everything 00:25:56
and so you try a little bit of everything if you don't like it then that's fine you give it to the 00:26:00
dog or you hide it or tell your friend then they'll probably eat it and the next we almost 00:26:04
forgot about the best part the next day the thanksgiving sandwiches yeah thanksgiving 00:26:09
leftovers are the best thing ever because sometimes you have to be careful you're like 00:26:15
no everybody needs to eat you can't take everything but when you have those tank 00:26:19
thanksgiving leftovers the next day i'm i'm the type to like take them out of the fridge and be 00:26:22
like not even heat it up do you make a sandwich have you ever made the sandwich i don't think 00:26:27
ever made the sandwich okay sourdough or like white bread yeah turkey mashed potatoes stuffing 00:26:31
yeah gravy and cranberry sauce on a sandwich dang that's good it's so good i don't i don't like 00:26:39
the cranberry sauce okay but i oh my mom made stuffing obviously not inside the turkey because 00:26:47
inside the turkey it's not the best stuffing it has to be outside really yeah because then it 00:26:54
it doesn't dry up and it doesn't dry up the turkey i'm usually an inside the turkey guy 00:26:59
for a little bit of context for you guys the stuffing is called stuffing because you actually 00:27:02
stuff the turkey with like bread and seasoning but you can also make it outside of the turkey 00:27:08
just like in a pan they have something like that here it's called migas oh it's made out of bread 00:27:12
i don't know what else they add oh yeah they were telling me about that yeah yeah but stuffing is 00:27:16
bitter outside of the turkey you would say yeah yeah yeah okay um it gets a little crispier 00:27:20
outside of the turkey inside the turkey it's always like damp yeah you're right um i was gonna 00:27:26
say something else oh we're gonna have thanksgiving this year aren't we what do you mean like a meal 00:27:35
yeah are we are we that would be cool i'm asking we could we could that would be like a friends 00:27:41
giving situation yeah yeah yeah but we definitely are this is something that we can talk about later 00:27:48
we're gonna have three kings oh yeah i'm putting you on the spot oh i need a roscon 00:27:53
we don't get that in pr in puerto rico but uh i'm planning on having um because we'll live 00:27:58
with his roommates and i think we should give them a three kings day right because i've never 00:28:07
had them yeah so i think i'm going to do my thing which is to bring like the food for the camels 00:28:13
and to bring out the gifts and stuff. 00:28:20
So that's something that we can look forward to 00:28:24
in our next podcast that we can talk about. 00:28:25
We could do like a gift swap. 00:28:28
That'd be great. 00:28:29
Yeah. 00:28:30
But I can put, 00:28:30
because I don't know how, 00:28:31
I need to research how they do it here, honestly, 00:28:32
because back home we do it like Christmas a little bit 00:28:34
in terms of like we put them under the tree 00:28:37
and then everybody wakes up. 00:28:38
But we also have to feed the camels 00:28:40
and like give them grass and everything. 00:28:41
So that's something we can look forward to 00:28:44
in one of our next podcasts. 00:28:45
Cool, yeah. 00:28:46
Yeah. 00:28:47
All right. 00:28:48
Well, thanks for coming in. 00:28:48
and we'll talk to you guys soon, next week. 00:28:49
Yeah, thanks for watching. 00:28:53
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  • Bachillerato
    • Primer Curso
    • Segundo Curso
Autor/es:
Loida Garrido Niño
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25 de noviembre de 2024 - 19:19
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